Linux or Window$$

**Tidder** · 02-14-2006, 03:37 PM

Originally Posted by kraft

lol so why are you talking about road bumps

Well, NOT EVERYBODY is going to throw their XP into R/O mode...

or onto a flash drive for that matter.

Plus, I dunno how to put linux into R/O (or onto a flash drive) if I was ever able to get a good enough package ready to throw in my car. I'm sure there's a wealth of info that I could google for... but then we come back to laziness.

**jmbickham** · 02-15-2006, 05:08 AM

Embedded device development. WinCE sucks that is costs $1,000. But for that much money you get embedded C++, drivers, sample drivers, sample programs and the OS all packaged for install. NO linux doesn't have that... doing it all yourself by hand doesn't count. Recompiling a special version of the kernel and C libraries (which you have to find yourself and it seems as if most aren't completed) for your install.

The Microsoft advantage... consumers and the average user are accustomed to it. Making them change will be VERY hard. They use it at work already and home. For businesses... "as-is" free software is useless. They need someone to blame when things are broken and someone to fix it for them. A large set of software, tools and full support makes Microsoft a big winner in the corporate world.

It really isn't about which is better technically... it's about which is better business-wise.

**kraft** · 02-15-2006, 05:44 AM

Originally Posted by jmbickham

Embedded device development. WinCE sucks that is costs $1,000. But for that much money you get embedded C++, drivers, sample drivers, sample programs and the OS all packaged for install. NO linux doesn't have that... doing it all yourself by hand doesn't count. Recompiling a special version of the kernel and C libraries (which you have to find yourself and it seems as if most aren't completed) for your install.

The Microsoft advantage... consumers and the average user are accustomed to it. Making them change will be VERY hard. They use it at work already and home. For businesses... "as-is" free software is useless. They need someone to blame when things are broken and someone to fix it for them. A large set of software, tools and full support makes Microsoft a big winner in the corporate world.

It really isn't about which is better technically... it's about which is better business-wise.

Ah very interesting

Yes and you forgot to mention laziness as said Tidder but there's still one thing which is very hypocritical...free software doesn't matter, yes...until there's opportunity to violate laws about copy.

How many users of windows does really have the right to use the software they use or more simple...do they have a licence for each and every little bit of software they use ?
Which one can raise finger and claim he or she never used a warez software ?

In the same time they are not to blame just because it entered in user's habits and they accept to steal as if it was a due to them...they are wrong and again thanks to cro$oft to help people remain in the rails of the laws, preaching on one hand that piracy is no good and on the other hand, closing eyes to not see the monster they created.

**jmbickham** · 02-15-2006, 05:55 AM

Originally Posted by kraft

Ah very interesting

Yes and you forgot to mention laziness as said Tidder but there's still one thing which is very hypocritical...free software doesn't matter, yes...until there's opportunity to violate laws about copy.

How many users of windows does really have the right to use the software they use or more simple...do they have a licence for each and every little bit of software they use ?
Which one can raise finger and claim he or she never used a warez software ?

It's not so simple.

For basic home stuff... yeah. Probably, but then again... I don't WANT to deal with computer stuff at home. Relax, a little web and email. Screw the rest. I do enough computer stuff at work.

For work? I acknowledge that the use of linux is growing, but the market as a whole... forget it. If you want to get into IT... depending on what you specifically want to do, I'd tell you to stick with Wintel and Cisco. If you want a little more... do Sun/Solaris. Databases... MSSQL, Oracle, Sybase... More... AIX, AS400, Citrix... Linux would be the last thing I'd tell anyone to spend valuable time on. It's just not as marketable.

Work/Business in general... I HOPE all your company's software is properly licensed. I've only worked at one company that didn't have all their software proprerly licensed.

At home... Microsoft is criminal. Windows should be cheaper and they should concentrate their time on busting companies that violate licenses. That's where the money is. For non-commerical use... software should be cheap or free.

In the same time they are not to blame just because it entered in user's habits and they accept to steal as if it was a due to them...they are wrong and again thanks to cro$oft to help people remain in the rails of the laws, preaching on one hand that piracy is no good and on the other hand, closing eyes to not see the monster they created.

Well that is true.

**kraft** · 02-15-2006, 06:04 AM

Originally Posted by Psychobiker

All on my post

Lol you just pushed the Big Red Button and started WW3

**kraft** · 02-15-2006, 06:28 AM

Originally Posted by jmbickham

At home... Microsoft is criminal. Windows should be cheaper and they should concentrate their time on busting companies that violate licenses. That's where the money is. For non-commerical use... software should be cheap or free.

A car can't be considered as corporate/office and when you associate this with the idea to have cheap or free software then it appears that linux is a good choice

Now about the fact that you work in an IT company doesn't change anything, you like or dislike the computer works and this is another subject, maybe that linux users are also people who loves playing with computers..even at home

You can get relax and still have the hunter's spirit to make things work...now this depends of the mood. Anyway we could discuss about this years and centuries without a real and neutral vision as everyone looks things through it's own lens.

**TheLlama** · 02-15-2006, 08:49 AM

The needs in a car environment is different than that of a corporate or business environment. IMHO, Linux is better suited for the car.

**kraft** · 02-15-2006, 09:16 AM

Support : http://www.mp3car.com/vbulletin/show...052#post747052

finally it's the same as in linux world....but for the same issues the difference is that you pay your OS

**84RegalRider** · 02-15-2006, 02:02 PM

For the avg dumb user. Linux would be find.
Word Processing and internet surfing.
Damn if you change all the icons to window icons they wouldnt know the difference.
haha

But there are big companys that use linux (google of the top of my head).

Eh most of the people talking down linux just dont know anything about it.
you guys havent spent enough time in linux to judge it.
you are tryin to rate something that maybe you played with for like 5hours, compared to someting to probably have used for 5+ everyday for years.

Most of the people who have actually spent sometime in linux say it is a great OS.
So really stop trying to about something that you are so bias about.

**Tidder** · 02-15-2006, 03:53 PM

Originally Posted by 84RegalRider

For the avg dumb user. Linux would be find.
Word Processing and internet surfing.
Damn if you change all the icons to window icons they wouldnt know the difference.
haha

But there are big companys that use linux (google of the top of my head).

Eh most of the people talking down linux just dont know anything about it.
you guys havent spent enough time in linux to judge it.
you are tryin to rate something that maybe you played with for like 5hours, compared to someting to probably have used for 5+ everyday for years.

Most of the people who have actually spent sometime in linux say it is a great OS.
So really stop trying to about something that you are so bias about.

Eh, sounds like your pretty bias too. Nobody is going to stand in the middle... except me.

I'm a big fan of windows still... but, I'm lovin the Mac...