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    Forget mini itx cases + mobos....

    And get a load of one of these:

    http://www.shopping.hp.com/webapp/sh...n/s7400_series


    The $730 model has the following:
    - Intel Pentium M 1.7GHz
    - 1GB PC2-4200/DDR2 SDRAM
    - 250GB hard drive
    - Runs Windows XP Media Center
    - 128mb shared video
    - dvd dual layer burner with lightscribe (although i dont know anyone who burns dvds in their car

    and it's only a LITTLE BIT bigger than your standard mini itx case...

    Pro's: much more powerful than the mini itx alternatives, just use your imagination.

    can anyone name any cons? I sure can't name any VALID ones ;]
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    Cost so far: Less than a grand ;]



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    9.75"x13.125"x4.375" vs. 8.26"x10"x2.2"
    It is 3 times the size. Probably three times the power as well.

    Now, I'd gladly take the trade-off just like you - but that's you and me. The point is that, by putting "Forget mini itx cases + mobos" in your post, you're inviting a lot of flame into this thread from people who are going to be inclined to defend their purchases. They are not interchangeable products - each still has their benefits.

    Also, a lot of users are all ready using a setup similar to this. The Aopen Pandora offers a similar platform at an even smaller size.

    As a side note, if anybody is considering the HP product, I would suggest possibly saving money and choosing the Celeron M instead of Pentium M. Performance is only slightly degraded and power slightly increased (only important in laptop environment as this is what the chips were designed for).

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    True, it's bigger than a mini itx but i feel that the performance gain is large enough over the mini itx that this would make the next ideal solution. I guess if someone has a really really small car (or area to mount a car pc) they can go the mini itx route. if a couple of inches extra in each direction is allowable, this is the best possible option.

    I built my own 1ghz carputer last year and it wasnt all gr8. sure, it was small, and all that good stuff, but the performance was awful. i would boot up and play divx rips off the hard drive and there was constant swapping going on (256mb ram, 1ghz cpu)....

    the fact that i paid almost $700 for the setup back then (and a similar setup is now is maybe $500), i feel i was ripped off but you live and you learn. technology always gets better and this slimline pc, in my eyes, is the way to go.

    price vs performance, even last year, my mini itx setup was bad. i could have bought a pentium 4 shuttle computer - again, of course larger - for roughly the same price. the cpu would have been faster, disk and ram would have been plentiful. the price wasn't what made or broke the deal, it was the performance. i didnt know how the mini itx performed before i received it. trial and error.
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    Cost so far: Less than a grand ;]



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    You should consider the optiplex USFF's. Smaller, and you can pick up a very decent one from the dell outlet for cheaper than this HP.

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    i have a p4 on a mini itx mobo.... so for me i still have tons of power, up to 3.2 ghz, on a 170mm square board....
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    That's hot sean!

    Fenton - USFF and this slimline that I posted, I THINK, are similar in terms of guts. neither of them are very upgradable (sound card, video cards aren't doable, etc) so they're on the same boat. for sound, you can get a usb audigy card.... but i have noticed that HP packs some pretty nice onboard sound + video cards onto their computers. I have a computer from 2002 as my main machine at home - 1.8ghz p4 - and it's still pretty good for what i use it for. sound quality, through my set of altec lansing speakers, is awesome!

    USFF rocks cuz you can throw it under the drivers seat!
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    My Setup:http://www.mp3car.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=73500

    Cost so far: Less than a grand ;]



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    over 1 ft deep is a little much for me. The full-size drives are nice, but why use a mobile processor if you're gonna do that?

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    Good point - might as well go with the shuttle pc i mentioned before....




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    well, at least this one, the slimline, you can lie flat. i had a friend put a shuttle in his car but he threw it in the trunk... the slimline you MAY BE able to fit under a seat or, in a big car, inside of an arm rest/storage area (with proper cooling-duh)...
    - sh00k
    Duct tape and a Bandana for the win, b!shes!!!

    My Setup:http://www.mp3car.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=73500

    Cost so far: Less than a grand ;]



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    I got one for my sister for $299 after rebate from frys. IT had the same specs apart from a celeron m and 160gig sata hd. The pc is small and powerfull but it comes with a custom power supply and it would be impossible to power it with any available dc to dc supply unless you want to go with an inverter.

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    How many watts (inverter) would you need to power such a system? 150? 200? More?
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