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    Quote Originally Posted by TruckinMP3
    Why do you ask for advice... then not listen or even argue the point?
    It's very hard to ask for advice on this site. Every post I make, someone makes a suggestion and freaks out if I don't follow it exactly. I want multiple opinions on what could be causing it, and I will eventually come to a cumulative conclusion.

    I do listen, I'm open to anything anyone wants to suggest.

    I don't argue the suggestions, I ask questions to clarify.

    The response from ergman is exactly what I'm looking for. Stuff like that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Maheriano
    I didn't look at that because I don't have a soldering iron and don't want to buy one for a single application. I feel bad, and I appreciate you looking up the links for me, but I have to work with what I have. Somehow I can make it work.

    http://www.acehardware.com/product/i...ductId=1340443

    you can't afford that but you can afford to put a PC in your car?

    you have to be kidding me.

    There's more than one use for a soldering gun. Chances are, if you're going to take on a project like this, you're going to take on a project in the future that could use a soldering gun.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maheriano
    The response from ergman is exactly what I'm looking for. Stuff like that.
    ....because it didn't include so much about fixing your wiring...
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    Meheriano, whatever your name is,

    You have posted before, about problems with your setup, and all of them have been BASIC user error. First, you installed the M2 with out connecting the MB to PS wire, and blamed the M2 for not starting your MB.

    Then you blamed your monitor for not being readable, when you mounted it a wierd angle. In that thread, you also REFUSED to think that you had anything to do with the mishaps.

    THen we tell you, NO Tape, but it isn't until you see the fact that the speakers cuts in and out that you believe anyone.

    NOW, you install the PC using 18 gauge wire, and from the stereo harness wiring. Not sure if I told you in particular not to do that specificially, BUT I KNOW THIS HAS BEEN COVERED BEFORE, and I know I HAVE answered the question numerous times.

    Now stop asking questions about BASIC problems, especially when you refuse to listen to what you are told.

    I only ask that you keep a camera with you, so that when your car is a ball of orange flame, you can take and post pictures.

    Until then, READ THE DAMN FAQ section.

    Why are you soooo thick. READ AND BELIEVE WHAT IS IN THE FAQ. TRUST ME, YOU definitely do not know more or better then the FAQs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maheriano
    I didn't look at that because I don't have a soldering iron and don't want to buy one for a single application. I feel bad, and I appreciate you looking up the links for me, but I have to work with what I have. Somehow I can make it work.
    There is no quick and easy fix OTHER THAN the one we mentioned. Soldering is the best, crimp connections second best, Tape is the worst, and screw caps a step below tape.

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    YOU KNOW WHAT, NOW I AM ****ED. WHY, BECAUSE Totally dissapointed with my carputer! in this post specifically Totally dissapointed with my carputer!

    In that thread, we told you how to do this properly. You insisted on doing it YOUR way. Why ask the question if you are not gonna listen to the answer, and think YOU KNOW BETTER. YOU DO NOT.

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    Wow, you have to calm down. I don't know why you think I thought I was better than you all. 2 months ago I didn't know DC-DC PSU existed. I'm mainly confused since I didn't do anything wrong except look for advice when I realized myself I did something wrong. that advice now is the same advice I got before I started and I realize that. I never once said it was the wrong advice, I just tried a different way first. I didn't realize I could get a soldering iron for under $20, that's real helpful and I will pick one up. I will solder all the connections and retape them, mainly since I don't thinik I can get a heat gun for that cheap as well. Is that okay?

    I'm going to remain to run the PSU off the wiring harness since I still haven't found out why it should be done different. I would love to hear why but it's never been posted that I can remember, someone just said I needed 10 gauge wire and didn't say why. It hasn't been confirmed I'm running too many amps. I'm not mad, I'm just really wondering why I need thicker wire and if you could explain it, it'd be great. I could not find it in a search.

    I haven't blamed you for anything in this entire post, but I'm sure you'll find something else to be upset about. This post is nothing but me looking for information from those more knowledgable than me to better my install. Besides the obvious tape.
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    You have got to be joking. Everytime some one here answers your question, you ignore them, or won't make the change, until you know why. You think first that we need to spoonfeed you answers. You fail to read the manual, or you do, and feel well, it hasn't told me why, so I am not gonna do it. Case in point, your M2 problem.

    People tell you it is your wiring, and you come up with an excuse that you don't want to buy a soldering iron. Did you EVER to see where you could get one cheaply. I KNOW I have explained to people many times why not to use the harness. for the answer.

    Even in this thread, you refused to believe what people told you about the wiring, wishing that it must be a loose card or memory on your board. How come you didn't wonder why about that.

    You know what, you rely on and use things in you everyday life that you don't know how or why they work. Do you refuse to do those because no one told you why??

    And, Red linked you to information on wiring your car, and there is a FAQ about it, but NO, you still want to know why you need to change it. Well, here is the easy answer, because your damn computer keeps turning off "for no reason"

    If you want our advice, then listen and follow it, stop thinking you know better, or refuse to follow it till someone can tell you why. Trust us, there is a reason, and your knowledge is not relevant to wether it is correct. I applaud your desire to understand, but instead, all you do is question the advice, and fail to search for the answer on your own.

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    What a nightmare


    I'm going to remain to run the PSU off the wiring harness since I still haven't found out why it should be done different. I would love to hear why but it's never been posted that I can remember, someone just said I needed 10 gauge wire and didn't say why. It hasn't been confirmed I'm running too many amps. I'm not mad, I'm just really wondering why I need thicker wire and if you could explain it, it'd be great. I could not find it in a search.
    Guys, you have all already told him numerous times. I think at this point it's time to step back and let him 'figure things out' on his own. He obviously wants to be spoon fed. The fact that he said he can't find it in a search, is just egging everyone on to find it for him to prove him wrong. At this point, it's just a waste of time. If he can't find it himself, he either A.) Doesn't want to know, or B.) Isn't putting enough time into searching.

    Can't wait to see what the future posts/questions will entail...
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    Quote Originally Posted by 2k1Toaster
    I assume the monitor is either commected to the PSU or to the same skinny wire in the wiring harness right? Do yourself a favour and actually run a wire from your battery.

    In mains wiring there are two considerations, voltage drop and heat buildup. The smaller the wire is, the higher the resistance is. When the resistance is higher, the wire heats up more, and there is more voltage drop in the wiring. The former is why you need higher-temperature insulation and/or bigger wires for use in conduit; the latter is why you should use larger wire for long runs.
    So the wire that is already straining to pull enough current to keep your stuff powered, is heating up, and up, and up until the copper wire causes enough of a voltage drop to send the computer into unstable operation.
    Then it is just a matter of seconds before the pretty yellow flame of death envelopes you and your car and there goes your over-paid computer.

    I drew a diagram of this a while ago... I wonder if I still have it...
    Well I tried to explain you why but I guess I failed.


    As for the soldering iron. I can do cheaper! I bought a soldering iron from RadioShack for $3.99. I already had solder so add a couple bucks. Or you can get the kit with iron, solder, stand for like $10. If you find one going out of business or moving, then like 30%-70% off too.

    Ok as for the wiring.... 1 more time with proof:

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    So, with RAM, and the mobo and a laptop drive, it will be close to 50W at max.
    Basic Electronic Knowledge:
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    The conversion of Watts to Amps is governed by the equation Amps = Watts/Volts

    For example 12 watts/12 volts = 1 amp
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    AWG Dia in Dia mm Max Amps Chassis Wiring Max Amps Power
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    SO without screen draw, you have already exceeded the maximum limits.

    Therefore, it is only a matter of time before this happens:

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