GPS SOftware CO-Pilot 2003

**code3response** · 06-26-2003, 12:32 PM

I read somewhere that the software comes with an actualy GPS receiver in the bundle for somethign like $350. Can I buy JUST the software somewhere? I dont need the GPS receiver - I already ahve one. Any links? Thanks

**Typhoon747** · 06-26-2003, 03:55 PM

No the software is not legaly sold without the reciever.
You can try Ebay, but those auctions get pulled pretty quickly.

Plus I belive that CP2002 and 2003 will not work without the bundled GPS. CP2001 works fine with other GPS's though.

**az1324** · 06-26-2003, 06:06 PM

CP2003 does work with the rand mcnally receiver. I think the only way to get the software without the receiver is to purchase the upgrade.

http://recorderworld.com/20travcopup.html

http://goessex.com/store/rvtravel_software.html

I believe all you need is a registration key.

**code3response** · 06-26-2003, 06:29 PM

So, if I buy the whole package, and get the included receiver, is there any way to hook up an external antenna to the unit? An external antenna for me is a must.

**samr** · 06-29-2003, 01:06 AM

So I am trying to put all of these co-pilot threads together...

I have 4 different Garmins so I am not interested in another reciever... I can purchase Co-Pilot 2002 original disk and manual for a reasonable price (how do I know if this is legit? Should I make sure it comes with a serial number also?).

Then I would purchase the upgrade for $99... I thought I read that the 2003 version would work with other GPS recievers? Is this correct and would that be any NEMA capable reciever?

Thanks

**jshrieve** · 06-29-2003, 05:45 PM

I would assume not. While I haven't tested myself, this is from the CoPilot 2k3 help file:

Can I use a different GPS unit with CoPilot? Why or why not?

There are three main reasons why our software is designed to work with our hardware only:

1. Product quality. [...]
2. Product reliability and safety. [...]
3. Copyright protection. [...]

However, I've used both Cp2k1 and cp2k3 with my Garmin GPS35, but that is only because the GPS35 allows you to enable/disable each type of NMEA sentence is outputs.. with a little toying you can get a configuration that provides CoPilot with the information it needs, but doesn't trigger the "you must use the official copilot gps".

If you have a configurable Garmin, you might be able to get it to work.

I have not tried just turning on all NMEA stuff again since switching to cp2k3.. maybe it'd work.. but the help file suggests not. I don't see why they'd change it. It's their best form of copy protection.

**samc** · 07-01-2003, 02:10 AM

nope I think copilot 2003 is like what $399? and it comes with the receiver. Its not bad considering what OEM nav systems would cost you. I only hate 1 thing about copilot, otherwise its perfect.

**cproaudio** · 07-01-2003, 03:50 AM

Originally posted by jshrieve
However, I've used both Cp2k1 and cp2k3 with my Garmin GPS35, but that is only because the GPS35 allows you to enable/disable each type of NMEA sentence is outputs. with a little toying you can get a configuration that provides CoPilot with the information it needs, but doesn't trigger the "you must use the official copilot gps".
If you have a configurable Garmin, you might be able to get it to work.
I have not tried just turning on all NMEA stuff again since switching to cp2k3.. maybe it'd work.. but the help file suggests not. I don't see why they'd change it. It's their best form of copy protection.

I have a Garmin GPS16 receiver which is the same as the 35 but just updated with WAAS capability. It is a configurable Garmin receiver. I have tried many different settings but still doesnt work with Copilot. I would much rather use Garmin GPS than Copilot GPS. It locks faster and more accurate

**Typhoon747** · 07-01-2003, 10:44 AM

I would also like to use the 16 or the 35 but haven been told many times that the Garmin's will not work with CP2k2 or 2k3.

Maybe I will have to start looking for a 35 and test it myself.

**Ricky327** · 07-01-2003, 02:20 PM

Hi cproaudio

Im also using the garmin gps16 on another s/w, its very fast and can even still work while under a tunnel.

One question though? do you have problem on you GPS where it kept reverting back to garmin mode?

I updated the firmware, reset the gps, and switch it to NMEA mode. I also keep loosing signals ever since I left my GPS in the car on a hot sunny day...might be damaged.

TIA

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