UK Speed camera detector, for any PC with GPS

**Confused** · 06-14-2004, 04:19 AM

Hey man, awesome work

What are you programming this in? If it's VB, get in touch with me, as I'd love to implement some of this within my Destinator program (if that's OK with you!)

Garry

**Ricky327** · 06-14-2004, 07:46 AM

Nice work...

I have downloaded those free database as found in some website but it seem incomplete, some are outdates and inaccurate. I guess the speedcam locations are submitted by users and collected to form the database?

Has anyone tried to rip the speedcam database out of the commercial product? such as the roadangel? An update file or something to hack or maybe opening one up and reading off the info directly from the memory. The update file maybe encypted but I doubt the info stored on the memory is encrypted though.

**mutilator** · 06-14-2004, 07:55 AM

i got a cd somewhere, with every cam on, ill dig it up to see how accurate it is, and if it can be ported

**g_attrill** · 06-14-2004, 09:13 AM

I wrote a program which harvested the scamera websites for their camera location data. I haven't run it for a while but I'll review all the websites again and see if any more of them are sharing the appropriate data. I suspect that the PocketGPS data is pretty much everything I have though.

Gareth

**Goto10** · 06-14-2004, 09:34 AM

Originally Posted by mutilator

i got a cd somewhere, with every cam on, ill dig it up to see how accurate it is, and if it can be ported

The coordinates are sure to be in Lat/Lon - as long as they aren't encrypted with some silly algorithm then they can be converted into DMS/decimal quite easily - I might add a multi-import function to import various data formats and just delete duplicate data (eg import various coordinate files and merge the data, deleting cameras that are within, say, 15 metres of each other)
The pocketGPS data has been as good as my Origin B2 to date, (I'm running them side by side as a test!) I might have a sniff at the data going to the B2 from the update program, if it's parsed/uncrypted before it's sent to the B2 then it should be easy to extract, if it's parsed within the B2 then it'd be a massive challenge to extract/uncrypt it!

**g_attrill** · 06-14-2004, 09:44 AM

Originally Posted by Goto10

I might have a sniff at the data going to the B2 from the update program, if it's parsed/uncrypted before it's sent to the B2 then it should be easy to extract, if it's parsed within the B2 then it'd be a massive challenge to extract/uncrypt it!

I had a quick sneak into the RoadAngel's update program and it appears to retrieve it's data in a simple XML format. Unfortunately I don't own a RoadAngel and am not the sort of person to "test" their software to see how it works!

If somebody with a RoadAngel could run an update while logging the HTTP traffic using Ethereal it would be most useful:
http://www.ethereal.com/download.html

Gareth

**Ninja Monkey** · 06-14-2004, 03:13 PM

I have a snooper S4, using ethereal I managed to intercept the latest file while it was being updated.

It makes no sense to me but I'm sure someone can work it out and format it correctly.

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/shaunjo...ationsLite.txt

**Goto10** · 06-14-2004, 04:19 PM

Hehehe quality - that can be manipulated fairly easily, I'll have to check B2 downloads as I have a subscription for my B2 unit anyway, so can then play around with the data - could then update the speed camera software to have directional data, speed limits etc etc and using very accurate data

I've done some updates to current one, calculations run a lot faster now and consume far less CPU time, plus a smaller 'footprint' on screen. I'll put it up for download in a bit if anyone wants it (ver 0.9b)

Originally Posted by Ninja Monkey

I have a snooper S4, using ethereal I managed to intercept the latest file while it was being updated.

It makes no sense to me but I'm sure someone can work it out and format it correctly.

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/shaunjo...ationsLite.txt

**Ninja Monkey** · 06-14-2004, 04:29 PM

My snooper tells me the speed limit when i'm approaching a camera, it also won't alert me if it's on the other side of the road...so all that info must be in that file somewhere

Originally Posted by Goto10

Hehehe quality - that can be manipulated fairly easily, I'll have to check B2 downloads as I have a subscription for my unit anyway - would have directional data, speed limits the works and A1 data

**Goto10** · 06-14-2004, 04:36 PM

It sure is, what I mean is that it'll be better for me to develop it based on B2 data, because I can get the updates myself that way... (As I have a B2 subscription and not the Snooper)

Originally Posted by Ninja Monkey

My snooper tells me the speed limit when i'm approaching a camera, it also won't alert me if it's on the other side of the road...so all that info must be in that file somewhere