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    ms streets and trips?

    Alright i read and searched for the last ten hours trying to learn as much as i could about carputers! From what i have found about gps ms streets and trips seems to be a nice gps program. Does anyone recomend a different program? Can anyone tell me where a good place to order it from? I need the software and an antenna. I read alot about using front ends with it, I am lost with what exactly a front end does, could someone please explain this to me? Thanks for all your help in my learning process.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ponch37300 View Post
    Alright i read and searched for the last ten hours trying to learn as much as i could about carputers! From what i have found about gps ms streets and trips seems to be a nice gps program.
    Yes it is a nice program.

    Quote Originally Posted by ponch37300 View Post
    Does anyone recomend a different program? Can anyone tell me where a good place to order it from? I need the software and an antenna.
    Here is the FAQ that you must have overlooked () regarding everything you want to know about GPS programs: Attention Newbies! Everything (almost) you want to know about GPS (Part 1)

    And to quote from it:

    What is the BEST GPS software?

    Short answer: There is no *best* GPS software but some are more popular than others. Some are better for European use while others are better for U.S. use. Popular software for the PC are:

    1. Destinator
    2. iGuidance
    3. Routis
    4. Delorme Street Atlas USA
    5. CoPilot
    6. Microsoft Streets and Trips
    7. Microsoft MapPoint


    which is in no particular order. iGuidance is very popular so I tried it out. 2 days ago actually. Right now I have uninstalled it and at this very moment reinstalling Streets and Trips '06.

    I think the maps in iGuidance suck. They are hiddious. The arrow is waaaaaay to small but there are fixes. Easy with RegHack. I like Streets and Trips. I have the 2006 version, but there is a 2007 version. In my opinion they added nothing new but some updated roads. I have not driven by any roads which are not on the 2006 version, so I see no point to it. Also 2006 has a good RoadRunner skin for it, as well as an Autoit script to get rid of that stupid "Driving and typing is a no no" message. 2007 is new and supported little at this time. Get a bargain and get 2006. The receiver that comes with it works awesome for me. Lock within seconds, and never loses a signal. It is a Pharos i360 unit that glows a pretty blue! Instead of the Pharos logo though it says "microsoft". I got mine in March when it was the newest at Office Max or Office depot for somewhere around $60 (I can't remember anymore) after instant rebates with the GPS receiver. Can't beat that.

    Quote Originally Posted by ponch37300 View Post
    I read alot about using front ends with it, I am lost with what exactly a front end does, could someone please explain this to me?
    A front end is a program that ties everything together nicely. RoadRunner (Free), Centrafuge (??), and Streetdeck ($200) are just a few. They provide a means to create skinnable screens meaning something not windows looking. This way you don't have to navigate the tiny little buttons and checkboxes and small font with your nig fingers on a 7" screen! They provide big buttons and a good font. RoadRunner is what I use and it interfaces with winamp in the background to play music. Tons of free skins and everything.

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    Thanks for all your help in my learning process.
    No problem, and good luck. If you have any more questions feel free to ask, but please make sure to search first and read the FAQ's. I know there is a lot of stuff there, but it is there for a reason!
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    I did read that thread but thought i would ask cause it is almost two years old. I think i am going to go with the ms streets and trips 2007. I did read about the recievers but i'm sure some things changed in the last two years and i didn't find much in my searching about what the differences are in the gps recievers and what makes one better than the other when picking one out to buy. Any advice on which reciever is a quality one and where to buy it? I'm looking for an online site that sells recievers so i can compare them but not finding to much luck. Ebay has a Holux reciever with ms streets and trips, is this one any good? Thanks again for helping a newbie out that has been on this site for 15 hours now!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ponch37300 View Post
    I did read that thread but thought i would ask cause it is almost two years old. I think i am going to go with the ms streets and trips 2007. I did read about the recievers but i'm sure some things changed in the last two years and i didn't find much in my searching about what the differences are in the gps recievers and what makes one better than the other when picking one out to buy. Any advice on which reciever is a quality one and where to buy it? I'm looking for an online site that sells recievers so i can compare them but not finding to much luck. Ebay has a Holux reciever with ms streets and trips, is this one any good? Thanks again for helping a newbie out that has been on this site for 15 hours now!
    If you go with S&T '07, then get the one with the GPS bundled in. Great unit, quick satellite fix, and because it is bundled it will be cheaper. On eBay, don't get the software and some other receiver. This receiver is a little square that if you look at the box, it is inside of it and in a clear little window.

    Most receivers are the same, but the big differences are interface and chipset. Interface meaning USB or DB9 serial. Get the USB one. Chipset ius the brain of the GPS. As of now, the SirfIII chipset is the best. Both of which the bundled receiver has.
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    I just got 2k7 and I have to say, from my little bit of experience, it is very nice. The main thing is that the reciever is really great. It has locked instantly every time I have used it and the only time I lost signal was when I put it behind my inspection sticker. If you just put it somewhere around the middle of the windshield you will almost never lose signal.
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    I just bought MS Streets 2007 yesterday and took it for a spin. I have not tried MS Streets 2006 but based on reviews they seem to be almost identical in functionality. In my opinion MS Streets 2007 is not very suitable for GPS navigation. It might be able to compete with say Google Maps for finding locations and POI but in car it's quite disappointing.

    Pros:
    - cool looking night skin
    - GPS trail (breadcrumbs) is frequent and accurate

    Cons:
    - does not speak street names. Even though the installer puts MS Text-To-Speech on the system and displays the street name in a window the voice only says "Turn left"
    - distance information only in miles/yards. E.g. it told me to "Turn left in 0.3 miles". There were three streets turning left, an announcement like "turn left at third street" would have been far more useful
    - no reminders once you are close to a turn location
    - no 3d map
    - detects when you are off-route but does not automatically reroute once you are back on the road. Requires manual rerouting instead
    - does not open in GPS navigation mode by default, requires user to click on tiny checkboxes before routing starts

    I have been using Pocketmap Navigator on my PDA and it is decades ahead of Microsoft's product. Unfortunately there is no desktop version of the software http://www.pocketmap.com/navigator.html

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    I just bought DeLorme Street Atlas 2007 with the bundled GPS receiver. This is the only GPS software I've ever used, so I have no comparison. The receiver takes only a few seconds to lock on after it starts so seems to work just fine.

    Pros:
    -Works at 640x480 resolution
    -Directions are good and read out like this: "Turn right on Stadium Drive, 3 minutes away, 1.5 miles. Twenty seconds after that, turn left on Regents Drive..." So that's pretty good grammar for a computer.
    -Speed and Heading have a 1 second or less delay (so does the gps trail)
    -High Contrast setting is good for night driving.
    -Lots of POI's like gas stations, hotels, exit numbers, etc.
    -Voice Recognition, allegedly. I haven't tried it yet.

    Cons:
    -Cluttered interface - too many buttons, menus, side pane, etc. I'll try to fix.
    -At higher resolutions, the buttons will be TINY. They're usable at 640; at 800 I definitely need to use a stylus. The voice recognition might offset that if it works properly.
    -Need a keyboard to type in addresses... not sure what I was expecting...

    Here's a picture of the High-Contrast scheme at 640x480. The bottom menu pane can be dragged further down. The left pane can't, I think.


    There's buttons that snap the bottom pane to the bottom so you can only see the tabs. I managed to get rid of the left pane completely on my desktop but haven't been able to in the car... not even sure how I did it now.

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    I found that streets & trips is a very good map program but is not good for
    navigation.

    I use i guidance for naviagtion. the views and nav is very nice. But the maps
    are not all that great. for instances i was looking for an address in toronto
    and iguidance could not find it. i typed it into streets and it found it right away. so i used the rest of the info from streets and typed it back into iguidance and it was listed under a different city. so i used the iguidance to nav me to the spot.

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    The bad part about these programs is that they are almost impossible to "try out" Once you got it, you got it. It would be nice to trial them. I have S&T 07 and Copilot Navigator. Both have their good points, but the Copilot seems better suited for what I want, big buttons and good maps. Copilot doesnt seem to have as many addresses, but it makes up for it by auto reroute, easier use and a few other things. I bought the copilot on a whim when it was on woot. The problem with the navigator version is that it uses its own type of gps reciever and no others. The S&T bundled one is universal. Becuase of my positive experience, I might by Copilot Live, which will use the microsoft/pharos unit.
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