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    That would work with the v5.1 but others earlier have said they are not sure if the v7 is the same. Also need the firmware from someone.
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    Keen to see how you go with this RevheadKev!

    Keep us posted, I has some room in my project to add DAB+
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    Got your pm nrgizerbunny regards circuitboard.
    Now start looking for venice module. I guess safest to find 5.1 instead of 7 module ?
    Also have to source flash hardware and code for module. Is this required for all module types ?

    So fire, what now ? How do we give this project some momentum ?
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    Hello Everyone,

    I thought I would just keep you in the loop about this as I have already posted on the Digital Car forum about it.

    nrgizerbunny will no longer be producing any boards / units / etc for this project. My company, however, has a Venice 7 based board designed which works flawlessly on FM, DAB and DAB+ (yes, I said DAB+!). The FM side I find, after experience with the HQCT units, works better making it a virtually worldwide unit.

    We will soon be producing a complete unit (board, Venice 7 chip clipped on and housing) as we have a constant standalone (so we don't have to rip radios apart like previously) supply of Venice 7 chips. As such, the questionable legality of this project is removed. The main objection by Frontier Silicon I am told by my supplier is not that the unit is being flashed with different firmware but that it was reverse engineered to create Windows applications to control it in the first place.

    It works in the same way as the Venice 5 / 5.1 units in the sense that it is powered by USB and has a 3.5mm audio jack to provide audio thus removing interference experienced with units such as the Silabs radio, etc.

    The unit will ship with Centrafuse software but plans for standalone Windows software and Ride Runner / Road Runner software will be released shortly after.

    I will keep you all posted!

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    Quote Originally Posted by craigbrass View Post
    Hello Everyone,
    As such, the questionable legality of this project is removed. The main objection by Frontier Silicon I am told by my supplier is not that the unit is being flashed with different firmware but that it was reverse engineered to create Windows applications to control it in the first place.

    It works in the same way as the Venice 5 / 5.1 units in the sense that it is powered by USB and has a 3.5mm audio jack to provide audio thus removing interference experienced with units such as the Silabs radio, etc.

    The unit will ship with Centrafuse software but plans for standalone Windows software and Ride Runner / Road Runner software will be released shortly after.
    Hi Craig,
    What is your company name ?

    Where did you get your design for the circuitboard from ?
    If it is based on the original design then I presume then that you have all the appropriate approvals and permissions from those who put the original effort into designing it before deciding to offer it commercially ?

    I also hope you do not decide to charge for the RR software once it is released as currently RR is a free platform with many free plugins, unlike Centrafuse.

    Currently the DAB and DAB+ radios are available cheaply so I am sure everyone is now anxiously awaiting how greedy your "company" will be knowing what cost the donor radios were.
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    Hello Kev,

    Company name is Craig Brass Systems Limited. We are currently a software development company branching out.

    The circuit board is one we had custom designed similar to ones used here. I have permission from nrgizerbunny which is what work the design is based on. It was updated to support the Venice 7 module which has slightly different power requirements.

    The software will be provided free of charge and with free updates for life for both Road / Ride Runner and Centrafuse once you purchase a unit from us.

    The unit price will be 80-100 which includes everything (board, Venice 7 chip with support for FM, DAB and DAB+ and the software). We have based this price on cost of materials and the price of the current alternative - aka the HCQT.

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    Quote Originally Posted by craigbrass View Post
    The software will be provided free of charge and with free updates for life for both Road / Ride Runner and Centrafuse once you purchase a unit from us.
    Will the software be open source so that plugins for other systems can be developed as well?
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    I don't think I can release the API to the module due to an NDA but we will use a common DLL for all systems and we will release the command set to control this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by craigbrass View Post
    I don't think I can release the API to the module due to an NDA but we will use a common DLL for all systems and we will release the command set to control this.
    Ok. So all the functionallity of the module will be exposed trough this dll.
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    Quote Originally Posted by craigbrass View Post
    Hello Kev,
    The unit price will be 80-100 which includes everything (board, Venice 7 chip with support for FM, DAB and DAB+ and the software). We have based this price on cost of materials and the price of the current alternative - aka the HCQT.
    This equates to a cost for us in Aus of $135 - $170 at current exchange rates + shipping
    The cost of the radio can be as low as $70 with the module separately surely much less than this and the circuit board parts would not amount to anywhere near the extra $70 - $100

    Suspected right from the start that the sales volume of this unit would not allow the same low-cost solution from a company because their overheads are more than an individual and a company would not allow for a cheap DIY solution to be offered, which is what most of us on this forum tend to do.

    I would say that this has effectively killed any hope of us in Aus having DAB+ for our carputers ::
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