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    Quote Originally Posted by DrMoney138 View Post
    I did actually have it disabled. I tried the install again after starting Update back up and it seemed like more was happening this time, but after a minute or two it crashed. The original Vista set (chatpad_0_0_3a_winvista) crashed with an error 0x00000002 and the new (winvista) with
    0x0000800c, both after clean uninstalls. Thanks again for all your hard work on this.
    Remember that since I have not finished the uninstall functionality, you have to actually uninstall the various keyboard/mouse devices yourself before reinstalling. I wouldn't expect that to cause the install to fail however. The troubleshooting section of the getting started guide should have information on how to do this.

    Anyway, if you still have time for more testing, would you please unplug and uninstall the devices via the uninstall utility and the troubleshooting guide's manual steps, and then delete the setupapi.dev.log file (in Windows\INF). Then, run the original (0_0_3a) Vista installer one more time, and PM/email me the setupapi.dev.log file and the exact error message generated by the installer, as well as the error code.

    Thanks for the help!

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    Donor votes:

    Sorry for the posting delays (been busy getting locked up in server room over the new year).

    1. Do you think GAFBlizzard is the winner? If not, please tell everyone why or what needs to be improved.
    GAFBlizzard is the winner :) I got it working on Windows 7 Ultimate x86 JPN and Windows 7 Ultimate x64 JPN (on x64 system I had to test-sign the driver files and enable TESTSIGNING via bcdedit).

    Since my Japanese chatpad (X814369-001) has some Japanese language specific key combinations, verbose output of the CHADPAD_KEY_XXX constants would be great for re-configuration.

    3. Question from GAFBlizzard : If the donators agree that unsigned kernel drivers, or test-signed kernel drivers, are a problem because of 64-bit operating systems, then a few hundred could be set aside to cover the cost of a driver signing certificate. I need to find out the full details of what would be required, but I do not think the cost is too bad and my understanding is that we would not need to go through the Windows quality labs just to sign a driver. The certificate might only last for a year, but as long as the kernel components are stable by the end of the year, I would hope that the signed kernel components would still be valid after that point.
    Considering that Windows 7 x64 test mode can be easily activated via bcdedit , test-signing chatpad driver files with some random certificate should be enough for general use.
    However it might be an interesting experience for one to go through with the Windows quality labs routine. If that work is not taxing for GAFBlizzard, I sure can toss in some more money into the pot to compensate for the official certificate.

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    I have a xbox360 wireless PC gaming receiver,
    A wireless xbox 360 controller and a chatpad.
    If there are any tests I can do or if I can help in any way, I'd be more than glad to!
    I check this thread every single day, so i would update you frequently.
    Keep up the good work Blizzard! I'm so excited that i might even buy a wired controller to start using this, haha

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    The chatpad is working for xCKxHolyChaos now. I haven't heard from Aidan91.

    In answer to anyone wondering about an alternative to pressing F8 in 64-bit Windows, there are a couple of options. The easiest is if you have business/ultimate versions of Vista/7 (hopefully I got those terms right). Then you can follow the instructions here: http://www.killertechtips.com/2009/0...policy-editor/

    Otherwise, I would have to release test signed drivers (which should be possible but take work, and you might end up with watermarks on the screen while it's in test mode), or people would have to use a utility like DSEO. I can't vouch for the safety or security of DSEO, especially since I believe it's closed source, so I will not actively recommend that. Use at your own risk.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gazbit View Post
    Since my Japanese chatpad (X814369-001) has some Japanese language specific key combinations, verbose output of the CHADPAD_KEY_XXX constants would be great for re-configuration.
    It's not verbose in a nice sense, but if you remove most or all mapping lines from the config file, the command line may actually print out a message that combination whatever + whatever isn't mapped. Right now you'd have to match those hex codes up to one of the header files though, and that might be too much of a pain for you. :P Also, for Japanese support, you may run into issues (one of which should be made a little better) supporting all characters. In particular, since I chose to go with a virtual HID keyboard as the output device, the driver cannot simulate any keypresses that your current keyboard mapping under Windows cannot type. I haven't really tried the possibility of simulating things like "alt-0-1-2-3" with some sort of timing mechanism. I think one person tried setting up a custom keyboard mapping in Windows itself, but I think they also later got a bluescreen crash. I don't know if they were related.

    Considering that Windows 7 x64 test mode can be easily activated via bcdedit , test-signing chatpad driver files with some random certificate should be enough for general use.
    However it might be an interesting experience for one to go through with the Windows quality labs routine. If that work is not taxing for GAFBlizzard, I sure can toss in some more money into the pot to compensate for the official certificate.
    I really appreciate the offer, but I think if we sign anything beyond test signing, just getting a certificate from Verisign (or even one of the cheaper alternatives) might be enough. WQHL or whatever is not necessary as I understand it to at least lower the difficulty to "click yes to the warning" instead of "jump through hoops to enable test-signed/unsigned drivers".

    I don't like the test signing approach because unless you use something like DSEO I think you'd get screen watermarks, and I do my own testing under Windows 7 home premium 64, so I sadly can't even use the registry to twiddle group policy settings as far as I know.

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    I'm in Las Vegas for CES. I'll get up to speed mid next week. Please forgive me for any slow replies if you need mp3car help on the chatpad.

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    @GAF, got a wireless controller, crappy but it works and my wireless reciever.

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    Well the good news is that this was typed on my newly working Chatpad. However I`m not 100% sure as to what specifically got it working. Mostly I think the that I needed to reboot after running Update.

    I notice that the 1 doesn't register some of the time but that`s pretty well the extent of my complaints. Once again, I can't thank you enough for finally getting this to work. I was wondering if there is a way to run the control program as background process that only shows in systray, and/or how I might go about doing that.

    I`ll be looking forward to testing the wireless drivers whenever they're ready for it. Would the logs still help you figure out what was wrong?

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    Very exciting. Any word on mouse configuration with the thumb sticks?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrMoney138 View Post
    Well the good news is that this was typed on my newly working Chatpad. However I`m not 100% sure as to what specifically got it working. Mostly I think the that I needed to reboot after running Update.

    I notice that the 1 doesn't register some of the time but that`s pretty well the extent of my complaints. Once again, I can't thank you enough for finally getting this to work. I was wondering if there is a way to run the control program as background process that only shows in systray, and/or how I might go about doing that.

    I`ll be looking forward to testing the wireless drivers whenever they're ready for it. Would the logs still help you figure out what was wrong?
    I'm glad to hear it! The sytem update thing may have indeed been the issue. Now that it's installed you might be able to disable system update again, though it might cause problems if you tried to install a later driver update again.

    I think I had issues with the 1 sometimes not registering if I didn't press it cleanly/firmly enough, so I think there are a few potential manufacturing issues that actually aren't software problems (not to make excuses...I have software bugs too ). I don't think I would need to see any additional logs unless the command prompt prints messages when 1 doesn't work, in which case there's something funny going on. If you have access to an XBox 360, you could try the chatpad and controller with that system and see if the 1 key behaves any better for you.

    Regarding running the control utility in the systray, my thoughts are that eventually I might support running it as a service, or maybe in the systray. One person set it to autorun on startup. One issue right now is that if you autorun on startup, you need to make sure the controller is already plugged in or it won't work.

    The main reasons it is just a command prompt you have to minimize right now are that it was easy to do that (haha), and for anyone who has problems, the extra debugging output really helps me figure out what has gone wrong. I don't want to spend the time making it invisible until most major problems seem to be gone, and people aren't having trouble installing/using it anymore.

    I'm glad it's working for you now! It's finally the weekend, and though it's a short one, I will try to at least make a little progress towards a driver/utility update with some fixes.

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