HU Quality AM/FM RDS/RBDS Radio with Features

**antimatter** · 07-07-2005, 11:49 AM

Originally Posted by Vchat20

good luck reaching your $12K goal then. ill see you when hell freezes over

**Stonewall78** · 07-07-2005, 01:19 PM

Originally Posted by antimatter

12k is to pay a mfg plant to produce them. We will not take preorders at this time.

$12k (us)??? I have access pick n place machine here at work and all I would need is a $600 (canadian) screen and some solder paste...

**0l33l** · 07-07-2005, 01:28 PM

Originally Posted by Vchat20

ill see you when hell freezes over

looks like you managed to hit antimatter's nerve

**antimatter** · 07-07-2005, 01:44 PM

Originally Posted by Stonewall78

$12k (us)??? I have access pick n place machine here at work and all I would need is a $600 (canadian) screen and some solder paste...

Why not PM Seth or Rando with a proposal for a backup offer

**^tyrant^** · 07-07-2005, 02:16 PM

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**Marsupial** · 07-07-2005, 02:29 PM

do we at least have an ETA (let say, after funding the project, how long till units are out?)

**rustyboxx** · 07-07-2005, 02:38 PM

Originally Posted by ^tyrant^

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Dude, click on Thread Tools and then click on Subscribe to this Thread if you want to subscribe

**Seth** · 07-07-2005, 03:13 PM

Originally Posted by Marsupial

how about thinking of DIY kits?
if you have a working deliverable, let the people who supported and helped get something...?

You must understand several people did whatever they could to help with this project thinking they could get something at some point... even if they passed hours searching with no results, a lot of the posters in this thread and the older closed one tried to help this "non-benefit project" and now we're thinking mass-production...

Heading to a workable result and not making it available is kinda...harsh.

WOW...WOW guys slow down a bit.

First of all THIS IS STILL AN "OPEN-SOURCE" PROJECT. Sheesh...
The schematics are published, the core parts are also published.
We all know it works and works well. Some of you saw it and heard it in personal.

In case you missed it:

http://www.dslextreme.com/~rando/radio/

Microtune 1384WFC 3x0195 Horizontal tuner module
Philips TEF6890H or TEF6892H (pin compatible, latter has hardware RDS decoding) sound processor
Microchip 18F2455SO microcontroller

What holds you from making your own?

I'll tell you what :

1) 1384 MOQ = 324 units
6890/6892 MOQ = 50 units from a distributor in China (that means import taxes) or 1,000 pcs reel directly from Philips (they don't accept smaller orders)
PIC doesn't have an MOQ

2) can you tell me how you're gonna etch/cut/mask/drill a PCB on your home that is used in RF application? Can you do 2 layer with a ground backplane?
What if you screw up in the solder pad line-up or the layer insulation? Will you resume responsibility or start ranting that the design isn't correct?

3) How many of you have the skills or equipment to solder QFP44 parts with 0.1mm pitch?

(btw the "you" above doesn't address Marsupial. It's in general)

2 & 3 above mean that for the 80% of those who will go the DIY route I must give them a proper pre-fab PCB with the TEF pre-soldered. That in turn means me look for a reliable AND cheap PCB manufacturer etc....etc....

1 means that I need that $12K up-front (I don't have them)

If I start selling right now without someone to back me up I'll have a problem. Who will assume liability in case something goes wrong?
I have better things to do in my life than worrying about someone sue me for something stupid.

Originally Posted by Marsupial

note: RadioShark from Griffin IS delievering, for 69$US, AM/FM radio via USB.
http://www.griffintechnology.com/pro...hark/index.php

By all means if you think buying RadioShark is the way to go please proceed. I'm not gonna stop you

I hope you noticed that I never posted something "hostile" on the RadioShark thread or any other thread that dealed with similar solutions. That's because I'm not thinking like a corporate officer or a marketing director trying to "protect" my "product" from competitors.
You're free to decide what suits you best.

All I asked was patience. Looks like I ask too much...

Cheers

Jim

**Dirk9N** · 07-07-2005, 03:49 PM

now, you didn't asked too much, but we all didn't really know that facts, so I think the most of us thought the projekt stoped or even worse

now we all know whats the matter and know why it doesn't goes on.

but another question, if the Haardware development has finished, what's about the software (firmeware, SDK and so on)
in the FAQ they stay at 25% and 35%.

**racemier** · 07-08-2005, 03:51 AM

Hey,

Little update on how Car Tuner v2.0 is doing.

HW finished and tested.
SW:

Microprocessor SW functional but not completely finished
PC SW current working program to control the module.

When connecting the unit to a PC by USB, the PC recognizes the Car Tuner and
installs the correct drivers for it. After this it's possible to communicate with the module.
You can send data (new frequencies, settings, etc..) to it (ofcourse to the I2C port on the module as well).
You also can read out the data which is present in the module (like RDS, settings etc..)
The PC program show the for the moment the RAW RDS data and info like stereo signal, level strenght, etc...
PC SW is being adapted now to decode the RDS data.

The microprocessor SW needs to be futher finished with some features like optional connection for LCD display.

The module took over the normal radio in the office and is now connected with a car antenna which we have placed on the roof

playing the whole day.

Regards,
Rogier