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    This looks like it would be fun. I can mount my own buttons for it anywhere I want!

    http://www.ultimarc.com/ipac1.html

    EGO

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    Or better yet, instead of individual buttons, I can link them to a n 8 way joystick and fab something up to fit in my ride. Maybe in one of the cup holder for easy access!

    http://www.happcontrols.com/joysticks/50800010.htm

    EGO

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    look in the build section-- there was a recent build in a white civic that only uses a small numeric pad to control everything. in one of the posts he lists the program he used to map the keys to different functions.

    the pioneer unit will not work easily-- there would be a lot of programming involved.

    look around for media center remotes-- most of these should be able to do everything you want.

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    Alright everyone. I took the dive and have all of my components functioning. My sound card is the m-audio 1010lt. My computer is just like this one:

    http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...=STRK:MEWAX:IT

    I have Audiomulch lined up with asio settings and I have all my signals routed appropriately for a 3way front stage plus sub............ Here's my problem:

    There seems to be distortion every time the bass hits a little bit. I've tested the audio on my HIFI home theater towers, my studio monitors and on raw woofers... All the same type of distortion. I should also mention that I have individually tested each and every vst that I have downloaded and regardless of whether there is a vst in the audio signal, there is distortion in the signal, most noticeable in the bass region (45-160) but I can tell there is something off in the entire signal as well.

    I have also tried 4 different pairs of RCA's. I am positive this is not the problem.

    Any ideas?

    I have also gone straight from the audio input in audiomulch to the audio output and there is still distortion. Where could this be originating?

    Winamp? Already checked to make sure EQ was not on.

    Any assistance will be greatly appreciated.

    Best regards,

    Erik

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    I suspect it is a driver issue and/or audio stream problem.

    Looks like you have Windows 7 or Vista?
    Which audio stream from winamp are you using? WAVE, Directsound, ASIO or Kernal Streaming audio stream?

    People testing Windows 7 on the m-audio forums have indicated if using Kernal Streaming output in foobar/winamp might correct crackling .

    Also, make sure you have muted the SW RTN on channels 1-8 in the driver control panel. For more details see here.
    http://www.mp3car.com/vbulletin/high...ml#post1158758

    OT: Did you finish your home array project?

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    Quote Originally Posted by durwood View Post
    I suspect it is a driver issue and/or audio stream problem.

    Looks like you have Windows 7 or Vista?
    Which audio stream from winamp are you using? WAVE, Directsound, ASIO or Kernal Streaming audio stream?

    People testing Windows 7 on the m-audio forums have indicated if using Kernal Streaming output in foobar/winamp might correct crackling .

    Also, make sure you have muted the SW RTN on channels 1-8 in the driver control panel. For more details see here.
    http://www.mp3car.com/vbulletin/high...ml#post1158758

    OT: Did you finish your home array project?
    Hey Durwood,

    THanks for the response. I am actually running a stripped down version of xp. Really quick bootup so far.

    I have been using direct sound to spidif just like the link you posted shows to do.

    I will try kernal streaming when I get home. At school atm.

    I have not put the finishing touches on the line arrays. THey sound awesome though. I just need to find a free weekend to take them to my father-in-laws place to do all the work. He's got a garage...... Wish I had one...... Some day.

    you using audiomulch or console....?

    THanks for the help man.

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    I bought console before I knew of audiomulch. I have tested the older version of audiomulch and I thought the GUI was better and might have been worth the extra $30. Now it is pretty pricey in comparison unless console doesn't accomplish the task.

    Plogue Bidule is also another host and there is a free vsthost available too that is less intuitive.

    I'm thinking you are overloading/confusing the signal path. Make sure you have muted those returns (disconnects software side of outputs from the hardware side of outputs so you can use the VST in between).

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    Quote Originally Posted by durwood View Post
    I bought console before I knew of audiomulch. I have tested the older version of audiomulch and I thought the GUI was better and might have been worth the extra $30. Now it is pretty pricey in comparison unless console doesn't accomplish the task.

    Plogue Bidule is also another host and there is a free vsthost available too that is less intuitive.

    I'm thinking you are overloading/confusing the signal path. Make sure you have muted those returns (disconnects software side of outputs from the hardware side of outputs so you can use the VST in between).
    Well, here are some pictures. I don't know where I would be overloading the signal path. please correct me if my setting are wrong. I will quadruple check after posting this to see that they are as instructed on the link you gave.

    Also, just to clarify, the sound is not always when the bass hits. It is intermittent and I can't tell when it is going to come but is fairly consistent, every 5-7 seconds or so.

    Tried the kernel streaming at this site:

    http://www.stevemonks.com/ksplugin/

    It freezes my winamp. Will try again.

    Best regards,

    Erik








    Just for reference in this picture above, the numbers 11 and twelve refer to 'monitor L delta 1010lt" and 'monitor R delta 1010lt". While in the next picture 1-8 refer to the analog input from the delta 1010lt.



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    Quote Originally Posted by egoaudio View Post
    Also, just to clarify, the sound is not always when the bass hits. It is intermittent and I can't tell when it is going to come but is fairly consistent, every 5-7 seconds or so.
    Well this could be a number of things. Sample buffer too low, bad drivers, bad clocking, running out of system resources. Although if you have this problem with no plugins, then there could be an issue. Motherboard/chipset drivers.

    Did you try this on a non-stripped down version of XP before you removed things? Perhaps you removed something this setup requires. DirectX up to date?

    Tried the kernel streaming at this site:

    http://www.stevemonks.com/ksplugin/

    It freezes my winamp. Will try again.
    I'm starting to think bad drivers if this is happening. What about another audio player to rule out winamp.




    Where is your output tab settings? Did you select sw rtn on the outputs and select spdif in for spdif out?




    Looks like this could be a problem as well, channels 1 and 2 are selected twice. If you have sound routed to soundout AND aux1out, then it is receiving two signals.

    Lots of things to troubleshoot, rule them out one by one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by durwood View Post
    Well this could be a number of things. Sample buffer too low, bad drivers, bad clocking, running out of system resources. Although if you have this problem with no plugins, then there could be an issue. Motherboard/chipset drivers.

    Did you try this on a non-stripped down version of XP before you removed things? Perhaps you removed something this setup requires. DirectX up to date?

    I'm starting to think bad drivers if this is happening. What about another audio player to rule out winamp.

    Where is your output tab settings? Did you select sw rtn on the outputs and select spdif in for spdif out?

    Looks like this could be a problem as well, channels 1 and 2 are selected twice. If you have sound routed to soundout AND aux1out, then it is receiving two signals.
    Lots of things to troubleshoot, rule them out one by one.
    Well, I raised the sample buffer but it just gets reset every time I use audiomulch. It resets back to 256. Bad drivers? bad clocking? How do I go about fixing these?

    I doubt it's system resources, cpu usage hovers around 25%.

    Correct, I do have this problem even without any plugins. I also have the similar setup on my laptop, minus the maudio sound card, and I get the same popping sounds. Laptop is running vista though.

    I downloaded and tried out WMP....... Same distortion. Here is the output tab:



    I did select sw rtn on the ouputs and spdif in for spdif out.

    The channels 1 and 2 thing is not the problem either. It makes no difference. I have tried it without nothing on the sound out and still the same. Direct X is version 9.0.

    I'm interested in the clocking and drivers route right now. Any ideas on how to check them? I'll be reading.

    Thanks again,

    EGO

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