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    Quote Originally Posted by Madboy View Post
    From my experience
    Asus Xonar HDAV 1.3 Deluxe - Doesn't have internal routing , Where did you see that it is?
    Someone in the forum told me about that, dunno if it's true or not.
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    Now I included Audiotrak prodigy and excluded Asus Xonar.

    - I'm trying to find some information about Onkyo Se-200. In reviews people love them... But I don't know wether it has internal routing or not? I need some information about internal routing and hibernation issues...

    - According to their specs, E-Mu cards are outstanding. Does anybody here use it? Or what can you say about them?

    - If we were trying to compare M-Audio 1010lt with audiotrak prodigy accourding to sound quality, which is superior?

    I'm getting to an end in making a decision about which soundcard to buy. After buying the card the thing will be making it to work!

    (About mainboard: In Turkey mini-itx boards are really expensive. If I can find a cheap one with pci slot, I'll buy; but if I can't, I will go for a micro atx (which will have both pci and pci-express, good for future development) and rebuild my case...)

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    Why don't you use the Terratec DMX6Fire USB?... it has internal routing with Asio drivers and it's used to works in carpc with vst-host like Console...
    http://www.terratec.net/en/products/..._USB_2084.html

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    Good card; but I need 8 outs, my setup will be 4way active...

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    Quote Originally Posted by HuseyinOzsut View Post
    Good card; but I need 8 outs, my setup will be 4way active...
    Just digging through some recent threads for information but spotted this - what about the M-Audio Firewire 410 (can be had from $100-150 used)? I had a 410 but since going to a compact mITX system with no built-in Firewire and no space for an expansion card, I picked up a Fast Track Ultra instead. I only have a three way setup so the Ultra works for me. I've had good luck with both of these things under Audiomulch and Windows Vista and 7.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HuseyinOzsut View Post
    Good card; but I need 8 outs, my setup will be 4way active...
    I take it you're only doing front speakers, and sub(s)?

    I'm still trying to figure out how to do my system active, as well. Perhaps, I won't be able to, with how expansive it is (I'm a car audio geek first, now trying to get in the carPC game). I want to do a 4-way, 5.1 system (yes, I'll deal with the issues of 5.1 in a vehicle). If I have 3-way fronts, a 2-way center and 2-way rear fill, plus LFE, that would mean I need a total of 13 outputs. I could sacrifice the rear fills, and run them passive, but that would mean I still need a total of 11 outputs. Is this at all doable?

    My other option is to use a separate, electronic crossover network, like one of the old Premier CD-1000 units (which I used to have, and like a dumba$$, sold on eBay). I'd still only have active crossovers on the fronts and sub(s), passive rears, and no time alignment.

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    I think you can use more than one card, whether external via USB or Firewire, or internal via PCI or PCIe, and just add more cards until you get the number of outputs needed. If using USB sound cards, you would want to plug them into the motherboard directly, not use a hub. I've never tried this myself, but I don't see why it wouldn't work. I would like to hear from anyone who has tried this.

    I think the main problem comes from ASIO. Typically, ASIO only lets you use a single sound card at a time, so programs like Audiomulch and Console won't let you output to multiple sound cards (if using ASIO). One solution is to use ASIO4ALL, which lets you combine multiple sound cards into a single ASIO driver. ASIO4ALL uses the WDM driver for the sound cards (but bypasses the Windows mixer), not the manufacturer-provided ASIO driver.

    Another solution is to not use ASIO at all. Audiomulch lets you use the normal Windows DirectSound output, which can use multiple sound cards. This goes through the Windows mixer, which is said to reduce sound quality.

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    You don't HAVE to be limited to PCIe or USB... if you ahve room, you could try something like this: http://www.siig.com/ViewProduct.aspx?pn=JJ-000111-S1 plus even an older Audigy2 card. Combine the Audigy2 with kxproject drivers, and you'll have a fully routable, 8 channel solution. (if quality is your concern, you can always use external DSP's, as Audigy exposes all channels as stereo SPDIF as well).
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    I have 3 DLS A3 amps for helix three way components, and a DLS A6 for RE audio subwoofer. For two years I used hippo hi-fi bloat and there was huge sound quality difference with my old card, audigy 2. Even if it is very easy to use, I don't want to use a low quality card. My motherboard only have pci-e. To get a pci slot, I can use some converter like you recommend; but I also will be using a pci riser cable to be able to get the soundcard out of the case (there is no room in the case). I want a permenant, hibernation friendly solution, so my first choise is pcie. I found E-mu 1010m, 1212m pcie cards; but I couldn't understand how many analog outputs they have? I need 8 outputs.

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