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Thread: iGuidance 2009 and V 4.02 NOT WINDOWS 7 Compatible

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    Not really sure what this guy is talking about. i have been runnings windows 7 and iguidance 2009 for monthes with no issues. I actually had more trouble running it on windows XP with it constantly failing.
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    Same here, I had been using IG4 on Win7 since I got the first beta of Win7, never once crashed or had a issue.

    "One way the key can be trashed is if someone else has entered your Windows 7 "Product ID" on another machine, and the WGA notice that there are 2 activations on 2 different machines --- and it somehow, wipes out the validation data that Nalperion relies on and ask you to revalidate." and why are you using the same Windows Product key on 2 machines anyway? Plus they dont deactivate or reactivate you if it is found to be on 2 machines.

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    There is a well known Windows 7 activation issue that is documented here:


    Microsoft Updates Windows 7 Activation Technology


    By Joab Jackson, IDG News Service

    Microsoft has revised the way it authenticates copies of Windows 7, the company announced Thursday.

    http://www.pcworld.com/businesscente...echnology.html


    If the software does find the characteristics of a hacked copy of Windows, it will then place the OS in the unactivated mode, which means the desktop wallpaper will be changed to black, and various pop-ups and tray messages will persistently remind the user of the OS' unverified state. No functionality will be hindered, Williams said.

    What about the chances of false positives -- where the computer is identified as hacked, but in reality, it has a genuine key but has been reconfigured in such a way that it matches a signature? Williams said the chances of this happening are "very low," due to the fact that the signatures all require multiple actions. "We would not switch the system to nongeniune unless all the other aspects of the exploit were present," Williams said.


    In my case, immediately after the Windows 7 patch was downloaded, Nalperion crashed.

    Prior to this patch, it worked.

    Since all my copies of Windows 7 are genuine, there is no doubt that the license key revalidation altered some data.

    Attempts to reproduce the problem led me to try different installs to confirm that it is in fact, a validation issue.

    It confirmed --- Nalperion --- the 2 version back one used by iGuidance, have not kept up with Windows 7.


    Use at your own risk.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jbradshw View Post
    Just adding another defense that IG 4.0 is working perfect for me on Windows 7 64-bit.

    For some reason, the Windows 7 64 bit installation did not seem to be affected --- though I have not attempted to reactivate it on there (and use up my last license).


    So you may be right that it is only on Windows 7 32 bit.



    A very simple solution is for iNav to cough up the fees (which they will have to eventually) and upgrade their Nalperion to the latest version --- then give all their customers a free patch.

    It would probably cost them very little in the long run.

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    Quote Originally Posted by davedave1234 View Post
    Same here, I had been using IG4 on Win7 since I got the first beta of Win7, never once crashed or had a issue.

    Guess what?

    I confirmed it worked on my Windows 7 beta (32 and 64bit) before I scrapped Windows XP.


    It worked at first, and in February, after the mysterious Windows Activation Change, it died.

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    For those who are having no trouble....

    This may be the reason:


    New Windows Anti-Hacking Technologies Cooking
    In the evolution of Microsoft’s anti-piracy measures


    Microsoft released the Windows Activation Technologies Update for Windows 7 earlier this year, providing a refresh designed to identify and render useless over 70 cracks used to illegally bypass the Windows 7 activation mechanism. The update was initially offered as a standalone download, and subsequently delivered via Automatic Updates to all Windows 7 users. The company stressed that the Windows Activation Technologies Update for Windows 7 was a voluntary update, designed to be deployed only by users that wanted to make sure their copy of Windows 7 was genuine.


    If you have not accepted this automatic update, it will probably work.

    In my case, the problems began right after this update was installed.


    http://news.softpedia.com/news/New-W...g-138557.shtml


    Stay away from this update!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marvin Hlavac View Post
    the fact remains that early adopters of new operating systems do often encounter compatibility issues with old hardware and old software.

    There is no obvious compatibility issue with iGuidance with Windows 7.

    In fact, Microsoft went to great lengths to ensure backward compatibility --- up to basically including a full copy of Windows XP in their Window 7 Professional and Ultimate.

    See:

    http://www.microsoft.com/windows/win...e/default.aspx


    I have worked with Digital Rights Management Systems for a long time, and in all the years, I have never had a complaint with Microsoft, never had an issue with them no matter how many times I reinstalled the software.

    My record for activations is something like 20 times for a balky install of XP Professional some years ago --- to the point where the Microsoft activation hotline just laughed when I called "again" to get a new activation.

    That was over a very tricky bug that was ultimately fixed.


    I have used Hasp keys and other hardware locks, software activations on just about every major manufacturer.


    In all the years and across all products, from $60,000 software installations to $10 freeware programs, I have to say that iGuidance / iNav's activation is probably the least customer friendly solution I have ever run into.

    Support is at best, disappointing.


    In the history of the industry, I have only seen one company that is on a comparable path of self destruction: Micropro International, the creator of Wordstar, who basically imploded after the failure of their (newly copy protected) Wordstar 2000.

    I have seen this movie before.

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    well, I haven't done any windows updates on my system, so could be
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    I have full updates (even optionals) on all my systems, no issues so far. However, I noticed this particular update about a week ago maybe, and have applied it. Only time will tell.
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