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    IDE to USB enclosure problems

    I bought an external enclosure to use my Panasonic UJ-825 dvd drive on my usb bus. I got the unit from ebay, but it looks exactly like the one from the mp3car store.

    I hooked it up to my desktop at home using the PS/2 power adapter and the supplied 3ft usb cable. The drive will power up and be seen by XP (Device Manager shows both the USB Mass Storage Device and the Ma****a UJ-825 USB drive). I can put in a disk and it will spin up, make a sound like the head moves, and then stops and starts the whole process again. It even shows up in Drive Manager as a listed drive. I tried my notebook to ide (40 pin) converter and it works fine.

    I have also tried the drive on my wife's desktop with the same results. I then took it to work and tried it on my work laptop (Dell Latitude) and it works. It also works on my P.O.S. Gateway laptop at home. All machines are running XP SP2.

    I have downloaded all the current drivers from Panasonic and updated my motherboard bios. The one thing I noticed different from my laptops and my desktop is that there is an "Intel PCI to USB" driver on the laptop and just a "Standard Enhanced PCI to USB" driver on my desktop. My desktop is an AMD processor using the 939 chip set, all other machines are Intel.

    I am at a loss here. Google searches have not helped much. Can anyone help me?

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    looks like it lacks of power supply. Does your box have an additional power input (with a wall adapter)?

    alternatively you can plug in BOTH 2 USB ports into your computer if the provided cable has 2 at PC end

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    Quote Originally Posted by qha_vn View Post
    looks like it lacks of power supply. Does your box have an additional power input (with a wall adapter)?

    alternatively you can plug in BOTH 2 USB ports into your computer if the provided cable has 2 at PC end
    I already did that...
    Quote Originally Posted by In my OP
    I hooked it up to my desktop at home using the PS/2 power adapter...

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    Quote Originally Posted by qha_vn View Post
    looks like it lacks of power supply. Does your box have an additional power input (with a wall adapter)?
    The problem seems to be not enough power to run. Use the wall wart and see if that makes a difference.
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    Why would be a lack of power? I have the data pluged into the usb and it came with a power cable to either plug into a PS/2 port or another usb for power. I am using the PS/2 port for power on the desktop. When I plug it into the laptops, I am NOT using any other external power. How is there more power on a laptop usb port than a desktop usb port?

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    USB optical drives act up when they are not getting enough current. USB ports are limited to .5A each. The drive uses the most current when it starts up loading and spinning a disk. It will take more than one USB port can give to make it work. That is why they put a second USB plug or a PS2 plug on there as well. What we are telling you is that if you already tried those and it still doesn't work, you need to try the power brick that came with the adapter because it will probably make a difference.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JimmyFitz View Post
    USB optical drives act up when they are not getting enough current. USB ports are limited to .5A each. The drive uses the most current when it starts up loading and spinning a disk. It will take more than one USB port can give to make it work. That is why they put a second USB plug or a PS2 plug on there as well. What we are telling you is that if you already tried those and it still doesn't work, you need to try the power brick that came with the adapter because it will probably make a difference.
    And I am trying to tell you guys that when I hook it up to two different laptops with the USB data plug ONLY, it works. No extra power plug is needed on the laptops. Now why would it work with a single USB data plug in a laptop (two different laptops at that) and NOT work with a single USB data plug on two different desktops OR with the USB data plug AND the PS/2 power adapter?

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    It wasn't obvious that you had ever gotten it to work 100%. Now that you have clarified that OK. But I have that same drive in a similar enclosure and it came with a 2Amp power brick. It always works when I use that to power it. If I try the other methods, sometimes it fails just like yours does when spinning up. The failure is from not enough power.

    As for why some USB ports can provide enough current and others don't it has to do with internal circuits on that model. If you can get away with it on some consider that lucky.
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    I have some 5v bricks around here somewhere. I guess I will have to hack off the power plug and try that. I apologize if I seemed to get a bit snippy earlier in my posts. This thing has gotten the best of my I fear.

    Thanks for the advice. I will post back with the results. Do you know what the actual drive requirements are for amperage? 2A seems a bit overkill.

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    It will draw a little more than 1A when spinning the disk and reading. I don't know about surges, or what it draws when burning, only what average I have measured before while reading. A 5V@2A wall wart is what my adapter came with. My enclosure also has a firewire interface. No external power needed when using the firewire.
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