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    Your thoughts on using video capture for backup camera

    I don't know if this has been discussed but what about using something like this:

    http://www.amazon.ca/dp/B012FKSB62?psc=1

    to capture the backup camera and run it through the FE instead of worrying about making sure my next monitor has an input wire on it for reverse trigger or having to manually switch monitor source?
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    Yeah I think I have read about those on here a few times..

    I believe it can work pretty well but it depends a bit on the quality of the adapter.. Some work better than others..
    I like the idea because then you can also record the feed if you desire but it does increase the amount of load on your system as opposed to the monitor solution which doesn't..

    I am looking at options like this, because I want to have four feeds, which I can record or view live, either all four at once or zoom in on individual feeds as required.
    So far I am struggling to find anything that suits all of my needs

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    If I may add my experience with doing this just prior to my last build.

    Problems that I found - could vary with the Hardware and Driver SW.

    1: You have the delay of initially starting the driver/ HW device and chosen display software the first time.

    I was using MiniCam to display the video , but tried others, the problem is not loading the application but the time for the SW to get data from the capture device via the Hardware driver, as the camera is normally only switched on when you go into reverse, this creates a delay, especially the first time as the driver does not really communicate and negotiate the video stream with the HW until video is present for the first time.

    2: The driver software for these things is flakey, it is the one thing that would HANG the OS every 3rd or 4th time if the camera produced video before the driver was set up, at other times it just hung for the hell of it, but most of the time it was the timing between the driver and the HW at resume, quite often the grabber device did not initialize correctly and would instantly hang the driver OR simply not show any video, the only way to overcome this was to unplug the device from the USB port, it could not be reset in task manager in any way. I eventually got around all but the delay problems by having my FE and controller automatically disconnect the device from the USB port (small relay) on startup and reconnect it when the FE had control after startup or resume. No more hangs.

    3: The quality is not as good as video into a monitor.

    4: If the PC stops you have no reverse camera, and if you want to jump in and reverse, you have to wait for the PC and possibly the FE (depending on how you control it) to be fully running, and then the HW/Driver delay for first video capture initialization.

    In this current build I have gone back to my 8" Transreflective PRO monitor with auto switching on video for camera input - It's like being in heaven after trying to use a video capture device.

    You may have better luck with something, but the OS driver package for all these video capture devices looks very similar. Sorry I can't be more positive, I just hated it after a while.
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    if you use an uvc grabber device, the OS does it handle like a webcam.

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    I guess I'll stay with a hardware solution, I don't use it a lot anyways. Just for the last couple of feet if I'm backing up against a wall or another vehicle or to hook up a trailer. Backing up any distance with it is just feels wrong. I much refer the mirrors, the truck is 22' long and sits high, I'm not trusting all is clear from that camera lens area ...
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    Personally speaking I would go with a quality unit like the Roxio VHS to DVD hardware/software unit. It has great driver support and works very well. http://www.hardwaresphere.com/2009/0...verter-gadget/ Either version 2 or 3 will work as its the same hardware just upgraded software. SNO

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    I want to run a dash cam as well, I think I will try running that one through the PC and leave the backup camera off the PC.

    What prompted me to start thinking about not using the RCA input for reverse cam was your comment in my other thread about choosing the monitor that will fit better (the Lilliput FA1000) and not to worry about the capacitive touch. However the cheapest way for me to buy that FA1000 is from Amazon.ca and they don't show or state it has the green backup signal wire. The same monitor on the store here actually shows the wire. I've asked the question on Amazon to find out if it's there but no one seems to have an answer.

    I guess it I buy it, i'll deal with the green wire issue later if it shows up without one.
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