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    I have my doubts about this, I seriously can't see Zorro doing his all his own stunts.

    I must admit it does look pretty interesting and useful.

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    Thanks, I'll give it a go and report back with my results.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TimmyM View Post
    I have my doubts about this, I seriously can't see Zorro doing his all his own stunts.

    I must admit it does look pretty interesting and useful.
    You're right. The electronics (PCB's) are done by Jens and for the other hardware such as knobs and stuff I have a local turning shop. I just did the technical drawings and the software of course (it's good to be trained in something useful ).
    The (very promissing) AB encoder is manufactured by a company here in Germany. We found it by accident. They build them in small amounts (hence they're not cheap).

    Since Jens came up with the idea of adopting the Audi joystick for the CarPC I was eager to have something that will push handling the CarPC over the limit. When we got the ccStick iD I'm very satisfied with what we've done so far
    The optinons you have with the ccStick compared to the Audi MMI are at least equal if not better.

    I use the ccStick iD in my car to control Centrafuse and it rocks!
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    How does that ccStick MMI work, I see that it's got two encoders. Are they both standard rotary encoders with center push or is the fancy audi one a multi directional joystick as well?

    The AB does look pretty darned nice. Is that a little joystick on top of the knob or does the whole thing tilt like the ccStick iD? You mention haptics, does the ccStick AB have some kind of force feedback? And, how, not cheap do you think they will be?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ik632 View Post
    How does that ccStick MMI work, I see that it's got two encoders. Are they both standard rotary encoders with center push or is the fancy audi one a multi directional joystick as well?

    The AB does look pretty darned nice. Is that a little joystick on top of the knob or does the whole thing tilt like the ccStick iD? You mention haptics, does the ccStick AB have some kind of force feedback? And, how, not cheap do you think they will be?
    The MMI was taken out from a eBayed Audi console. Yes, both encoders are rotary and can be clicked (there's just no way to buy them standalone yet).
    The Audi is an simple rotary encoder, no joystick function at all but you could add one as you still have the option of 8 additional buttons.

    The nipple on top of the AB, that's a little joystick and it operates on Hall sensors, not on switches. So the handling is very smooth and the encoder stays always in place and does not tilt.
    The AB is illuminated red (the ring around the joystick) but it has no force feedback (as in: it's motorized).
    The price for one piece (the encoder only not including the interface!) is about 140 € (180 USD) without a carrier.
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    Hi Zorro

    I have received my stick a few days ago,

    Its nice and small,
    Although i cant seem to get it configured at all,i cant get any movement at all with the WMI prog.

    Also not sure where to put the licence file,seems to make no difference?

    I can get some movement from the test App,so i figure it must be a setting issue.

    Please can you offer any help,

    Thanks
    Tweeked Purple Nissan 200SX

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    Quote Originally Posted by turbosx View Post
    Hi Zorro

    I have received my stick a few days ago,

    Its nice and small,
    Although i cant seem to get it configured at all,i cant get any movement at all with the WMI prog.

    Also not sure where to put the licence file,seems to make no difference?

    I can get some movement from the test App,so i figure it must be a setting issue.

    Please can you offer any help,

    Thanks
    Right. Here're some hints:

    1. make sure you've copyied the license file into the MWI folder and named it MWIPro.lic (ccStick won't work without).
    2. make sure you have a button wired to the lower two connections at the upper PCB (as mentioned here http://ccStick.com/wiringMenu.aspx). You need this to make the MWI menu popup.
    3. run MWI then make sure that UseCcStick and UseAppcontrol are set to true.
    4. make sure that under ccStick settings the MenuKey is set to "Menu"

    If you got that, press the Menu pushbutton and the AppControl window will appear. Press and hold it for a while and the MWI window will appear.

    After that you may configure MWI like mentioned in this thread: http://zhorvat.dyndns.org/PCForums/S...px?PostID=2823
    This is a general purpose config that allows you to control allmost each application.
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    Thanks Zorro,

    I have now tryed the menu button and still no menu has poped up,

    i have also tryed assigning diferent actions to the menu function and still no luck,i cant get any actions to work at all.

    as if the MWI prog can't see the ccstick,it is set to com 0.

    The menu button is working on the test App.
    Tweeked Purple Nissan 200SX

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    Quote Originally Posted by turbosx View Post
    Thanks Zorro,

    I have now tryed the menu button and still no menu has poped up,

    i have also tryed assigning diferent actions to the menu function and still no luck,i cant get any actions to work at all.

    as if the MWI prog can't see the ccstick,it is set to com 0.

    The menu button is working on the test App.
    You may have an old version of MWI. Please download the latest and try that one.
    ccStick isn't operating on COM. You sure you got the right tab?
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    Zorro ,i meant controller 0,

    I have tryed the version on ur site too and still nothing,

    No menu when menu button is pressed,seems like the MWI is not seeing the ccstick.

    i have renamed the licence and placed it in c/programme files/zorran horvat/wheel mouse input.
    Tweeked Purple Nissan 200SX

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