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    Iphone in car navigation - The Death of your PND

    The PND (Personal Navigation Device) and Car computer are Dead (pretty soon they will be). Get the details on how we made this movie and help us kill them here.

    Things used in making this movie:
    Apple iPhone Video Output Cable
    Iphone hacking tools
    ScreenSplitr iPhone App
    XGPS Iphone App
    Earthscape iPhone App




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    Looking forward to the video. ScreenSplitr is awesome! I hadn't seen that before.

    -Jim

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    Great videos. Now you've got me reconsidering installing my Aspire One into my car. Looks like I can get a cheap 7" double din LCD radio and have the IPhone do the heavy lifting. Thanks!

    -Jim

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    Quote Originally Posted by kingjamez View Post
    Great videos. Now you've got me reconsidering installing my Aspire One into my car. Looks like I can get a cheap 7" double din LCD radio and have the IPhone do the heavy lifting. Thanks!

    -Jim

    The apps are not perfect yet, but i think 6-9 months of heavy hacking will make this a usable solution. in the mean time there will still be a lot of people that want car computers until the mobile phone apps mature.

    Full maturity of these mobile phone apps and seamless hardware integration will take 12-24 months.

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    If your going to make a claim that you have a product that will kill the entire CarPC community, you might want to buy a dock for you iPhone.

    Between the cable hanging off the dash, the air conditioning vent mount, and the head unit looking like it was installed by a 12 year old, your claim of killing the CarPC is far from justified.

    Sorry to be an ***, but such an unjustifiable claim seems pretty ridiculous to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by skusa93 View Post
    Sorry to be an ***, but such an unjustifiable claim seems pretty ridiculous to me.
    Every single PND I see has wires looped over the rear view mirror and a suction cup holder on the windshield and looks like it was installed by 12 year olds.

    If you look past the wires of a proof of concept install and check the potential, you'll see this is a Car PC killer.

    It has:
    1. Music
    2. Video
    3. GPS
    4. Phone
    5. Internet
    6. Email
    7. OBDII

    And oh yeah...it's cheaper than a car PC.

    This is the bleeding edge stuff, so of course there's stuff you can't do right now, just like you couldn't do with a Car PC not too long ago. But ninety percent of the basic functionality of the Car PC comes in this package. What's missing?

    1. Touchscreen control. A way to control the software from the screen is required. While the setup in the video is a relatively straightforward display of the iPhone on your screen, what we need is a way to control the phone from the touchscreen. The software on the iPhone that relays the picture to the screen already has a built in mode that allows you to display the picture in a browser and control the iPhone from the browser. Perhaps there's a way to do the same with a hardware gizomo. Any engineers got any ideas on that?

    2. Server-based front end that renders the phone hardware almost irrelevant. Sure, this is cool and all but it requires an iPhone. Surely someone will come up with a front end app that works for the car on the iPhone but wouldn't it be better to leverage the phone's ability to access the net and build a server based front end? Then any phone with a decent browser could play. In fact, the phone itself would become relatively unimportant as it would simply relay the commands to and from the server, perhaps streaming the music from your home PC or maybe downloading it.

    Once those two issues are solved -and this is just the community to solve them by the way, the car PC will die. Slowly, for sure. For a long time, it will provide a better platform for storage and performance and for those who have specific customization requirements.

    But it's dead already.
    Quote Originally Posted by ghettocruzer View Post
    I was gung ho on building a PC [until] just recently. However, between my new phone having internet and GPS and all...and this kit...Im starting to have trouble justfiying it haha.
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    I don't get it? You're an mp3car staff and yet you seem to be encouraging the death of the carpc? wouldn't that kill you're mp3car store too?

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    It's going to kill it whether they encourage it or not. The original car PCs on this forum were simply mp3 player installs. I'm sure the community will evolve to include this new technology.
    Quote Originally Posted by ghettocruzer View Post
    I was gung ho on building a PC [until] just recently. However, between my new phone having internet and GPS and all...and this kit...Im starting to have trouble justfiying it haha.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bugbyte View Post
    Every single PND I see has wires looped over the rear view mirror and a suction cup holder on the windshield and looks like it was installed by 12 year olds.
    I really hate to just get into a yelling match about this, but didn't your mother ever tell you that if you friend jumps off a bridge not to follow him? Just because everyone else in the world is half-assing their installs, and promoting them as the next greatest thing, does not make it ok, it just means you need to be the one to break the mold and actually come up with something clean looking.
    Quote Originally Posted by Bugbyte View Post
    It has:
    1. Music
    2. Video
    3. GPS
    4. Phone
    5. Internet
    6. Email
    7. OBDII
    Now, lets pick this apart.
    Do you have surround sound capability on you iPhone? Didn't think so.
    Chalk one up for the CarPC.
    Does your iPhone support playback of 1080i? Cause my CarPC will if I buy a Blu-Ray DVD Drive.
    That's two.
    GPS? Are you kidding me? Clearly you know absolutely nothing about the iPhone, which runs off of triangulation and not GPS.
    Yet again, CarPC wins.
    Phone? I have a cell phone with a $20 bluetooth adapter in my car. I'll throw you a bone and call this a tie.
    Internet? How in the world do you call what the iPhone has as a browser internet, sure you can use it as a browser, but that's like saying I use my car for the radio, the internet has an infinite amount of possibilities, only one of which the iPhone takes advantage of. Pretty sure I'm stickin with the PC on this one too.
    Why in the world is email important in your car? Are you really going to type a response on your iPhone mounted to the air conditioning vent while driving? If so I'm hoping you live nowhere near me.
    Maybe I'm blind, but where does OBDII tie into any of this?

    Not to mention all of this is contingent on me buying and owning an iPhone, something I've already done, and will absolutely never do again.
    Quote Originally Posted by Bugbyte View Post
    2. Server-based front end
    Do you not realize that your idea of having a complete frontend supported by any old phone is basically a PC using a phone simply as an I/O device for internet? How is this beneficial at all?

    Just don't understand why your promoting this as such an innovative product, when it really isn't anything new at all, just an iPhone display being rendered on a head unit. Sure it's cool and all, but you can't really expect an iPhone to come even close to what a full PC can do, not even Apple would be stupid enough to make such a claim.

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