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    Asus $400 UMPC..perfect laptop install?

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16834220244

    Just add a 500 gig usb hard drive and go!

    CPU
    CPU Type Intel processor
    Chipset
    Chipset Intel Mobile Chipset
    Display
    Screen Size 7"
    Wide Screen Support Yes
    Display Type Wide VGA
    Resolution 800 x 480
    Operating Systems
    Operating System Linux
    Graphics
    GPU/VPU Integrated Graphics
    Video Memory Shared system memory
    Graphic Type Integrated Card
    Hard Drive
    HD Capacity 4GB
    HD Spec Solid-State Disk
    Memory
    Memory Size 512MB
    Communications
    LAN 10/100Mbps
    WLAN 802.11b/g Wireless LAN
    Ports
    USB 3
    Video Port 1 x VGA
    Audio Ports Audio Jack - Out (3.5mm)
    Audio Jack - In (3.5mm)
    Audio
    Audio Hi-Definition Audio CODEC
    1 Internal Microphone
    Speaker 2 Internal Stereo Speakers
    Supplemental Drive
    Card Reader MMC/SD(SDHC)
    Webcam Yes
    Power
    AC Adapter
    Battery 4 cell 5200mAh
    Battery Life 3.5 hours
    Physical spec
    Dimensions 8.86" x 6.30" x 0.79-1.26"
    Weight 2.0 lbs.

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    for $400 you can easily get a decent laptop with a lot more computer power and hard drive space.

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    I just bought one of these [ASUS eeePC 4G] mini-laptops (I waited until they were available in black). I have no intention (not yet at least ) of using it as a carPC, that's not what I bought it for... but it wouldn't be a bad idea, in many ways it would make a great carPC

    1. this thing is so small you could mount it almost anywhere in the car. (get creative and you could mount the entire laptop in the dash )

    2. it is almost completely silent. it has a small fan but you can barely hear it (you would never be able to hear it in a car)

    3. it uses very little power. instead of a large power brick like most laptops (which require 18v-20v@5A) the eeePC's uses a small AC adapter which outputs [email protected]

    4. comes with 512MB DDR2

    5. it has a 4G solid state hard drive (there is an 8G model coming out soon)

    6. built in SD card slot for additional solid state storage

    7. built-in wi-fi (but no bluetooth)

    8. has two mini-PCI-express slots (wifi card is in one of them, the other is free)

    8. VGA output

    9. 3 USB 2.0 outputs

    10. 1 audio output, and 1 mic input

    currently it's only available with a pre-loaded linux OS (proprietary, based on Xandros). it cold boots in about 22 seconds, resumes from standby in about 6 seconds

    you can run windows on it as well. it comes with instructions for installing and tweaking windows. it also comes with a support DVD which includes all the windows drivers. next month they will offer models pre-loaded with windowsXP.

    as far as performance it concerned, it's pretty good given it's size. it has a 900MHz Celeron-M ULV 353. don't let that clock speed fool you, it's based on the pentium-M which is much better than a Pentium-4. in benchmarks it performs similar to a 1.5GHz Pentium-4

    so yes you can get laptops with more power, but this already has enough power for the majority of carPC users. it runs audio, video just fine. once I install windows on mine I'll test iGuidance on it (but since I currently run it on my 650MHz P3 laptop in my car I have no doubt that it will run it with no problem).


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    yeah i was thinking of using the eee as a carputer but seriously... its not worth it because the lack of power. the operating system it comes with is a light version of linux. yes you can install windows xp on there but its a bit sluggish i already tried it. after awhile you'll want more power.

    honestly, i would wait about another year until asus can find better ways to put in faster procs in there.

    and solid state memory is cool and all but its still a bit slow when compared to a 7200rpm hard drive or better yet a 10,000rpm raptor drive.

    so for now, stick with a regular laptop. i'm building my carputer using this railing system i made that sits underneath the passanger seat. i just slide the laptop underneath into this slot i made and it automatically hooks up to the power supply. this way i can still use my laptop for school and a carputer. cool.

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    One of the biggest issues with using these solid-state based machines for a Windows install, I've read, is that Windows is a disk-write whore. This is the reason they come with Linux. Flash memory has a far-shorter read/write lifetime than magnetic disks and I've read that Windows can write enough to the disk to wear it out in about 1-2 years worth of average use.

    There may be some ways to tweak out Windows to lessen the read/write cycles, but you're still going to run into a much shorter lifespan on the solid-state disk than you would with a Linux OS. I haven't looked recently, but what's the state of carPC software for Linux (front ends, navi, etc.)?

    CarPC v2.5 up and running - all hardware installed, skin configured, and iG tweaked like crazy. Now for OBD-II, and voice control, and camera plugin, and... :nutz: - it never ends!

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    the eee has more than enough power to run windows. you just have to "de-bloat" it first with nLite (which any carPC user should do anyways). once its installed you should also turn off unecessary services like system restore, etc. and disable the paging file. once you de-bloat and tweak windows, then it flies on the eeePC.

    SSDs are faster than magnetic HDDs. the transfer rate is about the same, but the seek time is much faster on an SSD than mechanical HDD. HDDs have to physically/mechanically seek/retrieve the data, then transfer it. SSDs don't suffer from mechanical latency and as a result seek time is almost instantaneous.

    don't worry about the SSD lifespan, windows or Linux it will last for years under normal use. don't confuse an high-endurance flash in an SSD with the significantly shoter lifespan of a removable flash card. modern SSD's are good for at least 1,000,000 write/erase cycles. at a constant 40MB/s transfer rate it would take over 3 years of continuous writing to kill a modern SSD. the technology is over 10 years old now and is ready for use as a reliable HDD replacement.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ComputerGeek View Post
    don't worry about the SSD lifespan, windows or Linux it will last for years under normal use. don't confuse an high-endurance flash in an SSD with the significantly shoter lifespan of a removable flash card. modern SSD's are good for at least 1,000,000 write/erase cycles. at a constant 40MB/s transfer rate it would take over 3 years of continuous writing to kill a modern SSD. the technology is over 10 years old now and is ready for use as a reliable HDD replacement.
    I stand corrected. It must be true, coming from a user whose name is ComputerGeek.

    I wonder when we'll see reasonable SSD's in IDE or SATA - hell a 16GB flash drive is down to like $60 in places. That'd be more than plenty for C:\...

    CarPC v2.5 up and running - all hardware installed, skin configured, and iG tweaked like crazy. Now for OBD-II, and voice control, and camera plugin, and... :nutz: - it never ends!

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    $60 is pretty good for a 16gb SSD (unless it's a useless expresscard SSD).. who sells them for that price?

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    $60 is pretty good for a 16gb SSD (unless it's a useless expresscard SSD).. who sells them for that price?
    Pretty good? Hell that incredible I just paid $261 for and 8GB flash drive..... Hhhhmmmm I'd like to know where too.

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    screen man .. screen.

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