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    I'm currently running a Surface RT in my 2002 Maxima. I have the base of the mount in the dash but I'm still working on the trim bezel. If and when I ever finish that part of it, I'll be sure to post pics. The RT version is MUCH easier to mount but very limited due to the lack of apps. Easier to mount due to the fact that the charging port and usb port are on the same end. So when I slide my RT into the mount, the charging port and usb ports are fixed at the bottom allowing connectivity to power and to the 7 port powered usb hub mounted behind it in the dash. Beyond the hub I am running 1 non-powered 4 port usb hub (basically for low current usb thumb drives), 3 laptop hard drives (salvaged from past carpc's) and a usb audio adapter to get my optical signal to the Audison Bit-One. So far the only major problem I've run into is that the cheap cases I bought for the hard drives. One of the drives seems to always work. But the other 2 are completely random. Some days they all power up beautifully, others, I may have to remove them and slide them back into their respective dock.

    I'm looking into the SP2 as an upgrade. But I'm still working out the kinks of docking it in portrait mode as the usb and charging connections are at opposite ends. Considering it took me 4 tries to get the power connector to line up perfectly with every mount on the RT, I'm really not looking forward to rebuilding another dock. But then again, I think it's the build that I enjoy the most. Otherwise... why would I keep changing everything? LOL

    As soon as I make the decision about the SP2 vs my RT, I'll finish it off and get some build pics up.

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    Does anyone have suggestions for getting Surface Pro 2 to power up when the ignition key is turned?

    My current CarPC is a laptop that I opened up and soldered some wires to the power button, but I'm guessing that's not going to be practical with a Surface.

    Thanks in advance for any ideas...

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    mabee wake from/on usb...are you using any steering wheel interface...ie joycon?

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    I don't have joycon... can it to configured to send a wakeup command when power comes on, or do you have to press a button every time?

    I've been using this: http://www.mp3car.com/user-innovatio...on-module.html

    The nice thing is that it's hands-free, but the drawback is that it requires soldering, and that is only going to get more difficult as time goes on. Smaller components, packed tighter and tighter...

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    havent posted in awhile. i got this in my car now. got the docking station running to an inverter.

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    Mickz, I have a honda accord as well and I have to say I feel extremely jealous of your setup. I'd only dream I could have a portrait display with the hvac displayed under from the screen. Right now I've considered the metra climate control which I plan to fiberglass under in the storage compartment area along with a single din HU. This should leave me all the room I need above where the radio/hvac is to custom mold any monitor or tablet. Your setup could quite likely have the same look as a tesla HU. Sick!...

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    Hi all, sorry for the long absence, I don't seem to get any notifications from this thread, have to look into that.

    Anyway - an update.

    I am about to redo the Car-PC install and fit the Surface Pro-2. For those who don't already know, the G7 Honda Accords have a combined Audio interface and HVAC-Dual Zone climate control mother board. If you remove the radio/CD units you have NO display of the HVAC system status and you have to retain this huge mother board to run the Climate control system. Anyway I managed to do that, relocate the HVAC board and interface it to a PC and a small standalone remote control unit for - obviously - full control and display of the Climate control system without a PC.

    LINK ->Part of OLD the car-pc install HvacRelocate1

    I have managed to cut the HVAC/Audio Mother board in half - now it's VERY easy to fit behind anything that mounted in the old Audio head unit location. So this has prompted me to simplify the complete system by using just a Surface Pro 2.

    LINK -> NEW HvacRelocate2


    1: I have rewritten the front end SW for Portrait layout.
    2: I now have a permanent Basic Dual zone climate control display across the bottom screen.
    3: Included in lower display is a common menu forward back navigation button.
    4: I have just tested the Surface-P2 with 12 USB devices - all run from that one USB3 port on the SP2.

    Pictures to come.

    More about step 4.

    SP2 USB3 port to a 10 port hub (USB2 + USB3) one port to a rear mounted 4 port hub.


    SP2
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    10 PORT HUB
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    1 :HVAC micro interface
    2: Vehicle controls Micro interface
    3: GPS1 - mapping
    4: GPS2 - Vehicle Speed display @ 10Hz per second update.
    5: ATF Pressure and temperature monitor micro
    6: Emergency wireless keyboard dongle
    7: Emergency mouse dongles - don't think I'll need this.
    8: USB3 port for SSD file copy etc.
    9: 20ft USB repeater cable to rear 4 Port Hub. Have cut the length down.
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    4 PORT HUB (rear of vehicle)
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    09: DAB-FM radio
    10: Vehicle imbedded mobile Phone module
    11: Remote volume control of Amplifier audio and muting.
    12: Phoenix Noise cancelling unit for Hands Free Phone.

    I actually powered everything - except the SSD drive - off the SP2 USB3 port for the test.

    I've come up with what I think is a simple way to mount and remove the SP2 and make it look integrated into the centre dash, and a way to mechanically auto trigger the power switch if I go that way.

    I'll likely start a separate thread when I get it under way - just about to start removing the old system and wiring - Sigh!
    Surface Pro 2 128GB portrait mode, Win8.1, Reverse camera, Dual 10HZ GPS RX's for Speed Display & Sat Nav, FM-DAB & Phone Modules, iDrive interface. T-Screen HVAC control, custom microcontrollers, microcode and FE. Previous Car-PC Project

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    Exciting stuff!! I wondered if you would end up using the surface pro...

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    Quote Originally Posted by camo.b View Post
    Exciting stuff!! I wondered if you would end up using the surface pro...
    Thanks - I've been putting it off for a while.

    Only problem I have to overcome with the Surface P2 is how to control the display backlight via the vehicles PWM signal. There are two keyboard shortcuts but from what I've read they may be hardware intercepted and not actual keystrokes that can be mimicked in SW. Worst case - I get an SP2 keyboard, cut it apart and knock up a tiny micro to interface between the Vehicle PWM and mimic the two control commands.

    You really do need control of the SP2's tiny Momentary push button Power switch. This will be a tiny mechanical leaver controlled by a miniature solenoid and driven from the vehicle interface micro. No attachment to the SP2 so the SP2 simply slips in or out of it's cradle.
    Surface Pro 2 128GB portrait mode, Win8.1, Reverse camera, Dual 10HZ GPS RX's for Speed Display & Sat Nav, FM-DAB & Phone Modules, iDrive interface. T-Screen HVAC control, custom microcontrollers, microcode and FE. Previous Car-PC Project

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    Thats the key for the new install then...removable? I do like the removable option...i think for the first few years of my carpc install ive lost track of how long i spent just sitting in the car..tweaking and rewiring.
    The backlighting on the surface. Does it go low/high enough? Im using a mix of ambient light sensing and software to brighten and dim my screen..only problem i found is summer to winter i need to adjust the screen driver boards brightness setting to change the max levels.2 times a year isnt that bad tho..i have a lvds port on my carpc and screen.one day ill remove the vga connection and change to lvds to experiment with the brightness control a bit more.

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