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    Quote Originally Posted by turbocad6 View Post
    it's nice to want

    I've searched & never found the perfect touchscreen for myself, so I built it, not saying what your looking for is not out there, but if not, you may HAVE to build it. good luck searching for what you want
    Ummm..yeah. Aren't you that guy with the keyboard steering wheel and the power strip under the center console, and the 800 X 1280 monitor?

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    I still want to add more screens


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    Quote Originally Posted by turbocad6 View Post
    not saying what your looking for is not out there, but if not, you may HAVE to build twelve of them in various sizes and install them all over your car.
    I have too much time and too little aggravation in my life, so I built a carPC. ;)

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    Want in one hand, ***** in the other. See which has more results.

    BUT, If you can find that screen, and you wash your hands after, lemme know where, Id love to get one, but I think youll have to build it, and they will come.

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    And i want a toilet made of gold! but its not in the cards baby, yah.
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    My idea of a perfect car touch screen would be:

    -7" wide@1280*800

    -Bare LCD mounted in a metal frame with threaded mounting points for easier integration

    -Electronics screwed onto a metal backing plate (none of this double stick foam crap that they use now) then covered with another metal cover with a heatsink on the chips that get hot. I can burn myself on the main chip on my Xenarc.

    -A switch panel that connects to the LCD via a Molex Mini-Fit Jr. sytle connector to make it easy to extend the switches somewhere else or connect other controls (it would be perfect to have the power wires, switch panel and video signal in one connector. Would make for a very OEM install)

    -A momentary switch input for the display to flip to a video input for a backup camera. When the car is in reverse, the image switches to the camera. When the car is out of reverse, the image flips back to the VGA

    -A toggle switch to set turn on when DC received or to allow the driver to turn it on and off manually

    -Transreflective

    -Dimmer switch to cut the brightness down at night, could also be integrated into the vehicle's dimmer system.


    Seems like every company (lilliput, xenarc, etc...) wants to make screens for car use, but don't want to provide any practical car features.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grimoire View Post
    and they will come.
    Nice pun!!

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    You know, it's just that after shopping/comparing/installing my own carputer, it strikes me as odd that so few of our needs are being met...I know there's transreflective monitors out there, but they cost an arm and a leg, and there are myriad other problems with the touch screens, such as the lack of EDID in a product with non-standard resolution, etc.

    It seems as if all there is to choose from is the same product with minor cosmetic changes from a host of vendors. Add to that the fact that the car audio industry is too busy trying to lock up business with their own proprietary, interconnected solutions that they wouldn't dream of offering a touch screen with a PC interface without making it exorbitant...offering a way to control a PC would be shooting themselves in the foot, due to the number of components the PC replaces.

    It's not that I'm unaware that technology takes a while to percolate down to niche products for niche groups such as ourselves...but from a business standpoint, if I wanted the hobby to really take off, and open up the flood gates for lucrative, high margin accessory sales, I'd make offering a good touch screen interface PRIORITY #1. Think about it: Which of us, when thinking about what makes a carputer the kick *** solution that it is, is not thinking about navigating on the in-dash display? How many of us, when showing another potential customer our own setups, start with the shutdown controller instead of the display? Of course you don't, you start with sitting the person in the front seat of the car, and you say, "Look what you have access to from this screen..." It has everything to do with the cool factor involved in attracting new customers, and, imho, is one of the main obstacles behind making a carputer a mainstream upgrade.

    We're now to the point where, as a hobby, we're routinely getting exposure in trade shows, competitions, and more mainstream publications like Car Audio and Electronics magazine. Now is the time for the industry to step up, and I think the display is one of, if not the key component that is lacking in the marketplace. The first to offer a reasonably priced solution in this regard, I feel, will gain a significant leg up in a growing market.
    I have too much time and too little aggravation in my life, so I built a carPC. ;)

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    While I agree with what you said, the only problem is costs...
    If a "low spec" transflective Lilly costs over $600, how much is this
    1. EDID
    2. transreflectivity
    3. no smudges
    4. a higher resolution than 800 X 480
    5. a variety of sizes
    6. a 16 X 9 screen to at least match one standard aspect ratio for
    movie content
    7. decent drivers
    gonna cost? $1500??

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    Quote Originally Posted by wywywywy View Post
    While I agree with what you said, the only problem is costs...
    If a "low spec" transflective Lilly costs over $600, how much is this
    gonna cost? $1500??
    I agree that's part of the problem. I do, however, have a real hard time believing there isn't a significant amount of margin built into that product, especially considering all that was upgraded was the optics (and no, I don't believe that upgrade should nearly double the price of the unit...but so long as people will pay it...).
    I have too much time and too little aggravation in my life, so I built a carPC. ;)

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    you could always talk to the suppliers directly.... i've seen some 6.3" XGA screens designed for integration with optical enhancements, touch screen etc...

    odds are if you're only buying one, they'll charge you something outrageous. I remember asking vartech about a 7" sunlight readable touch screen and they said they'd make me a deal at $2695 a piece.

    i think it's probaby cheaper to consider alternative solutions to your problems rather than trying to fight them on the most expensive front you have.
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