3m upgrades

**Phatsacks** · 08-27-2007, 01:03 PM

woops! time to review the rules!

**2k1Toaster** · 08-27-2007, 01:07 PM

Originally Posted by Phatsacks

woops! time to review the rules!

no problem. I have seen many useful threads get closed because of just the mention of... "it". And this is a cool thread, so I want it to stay!

**Homebrew** · 08-27-2007, 02:12 PM

I suspect with the increase in sample requests, several of us will get denied. Still not sure I ordered the right thing since I didn't see an option for 90 degree DBEF-E. Wish I had requested an anti-glare as well. Instead I request a different DBEF and a different BEF. Hopefully we can find places to purchase this stuff since I'm certain after this wave of sample requests, they're gonna tighten the restraints on who they give samples to.

-Kevin

**Phatsacks** · 08-27-2007, 02:17 PM

Kevin -

Call up and have them correct the issue. I called up because one of the film's plastic protectants were slightly damaged, and requested a new film and the anti-glare.

It depends how many companies ask for samples on average. Our community requests might be only a 3-5% increase, or it might be a 200% increase.

Also, the 11" samples should be enough for two 7" screens, in which case you can have my extra/left over at the next mp3car meet.

**Homebrew** · 08-27-2007, 03:54 PM

I'm still curious as to where anyone seen an option for 90 degree DBEF-E. On the DBEF-E product page here:
http://solutions.3m.com/wps/portal/3...AbcPageHandler
They only list 45 and 0 degree.

On the sample request page here:
http://solutions.3m.com/wps/portal/3.../ordersamples/
There isn't even an option to select 45 or 0 degree(much less 90 degree).

I'm just curious as to were anyone found a reference to 90 degree DBEF-E. The BEF II is listed as 90 degree on the product page for all the BEF products, but I have seen no mention anywhere of 90 degree DBEF-E. I'm just curious is all, I want to make sure everyone is on the same page and when we get to comparing results, we're comparing apples to apples. I'm just still baffled as to whether or not a 90 degree DBEF-E actually exists. I just wanna see something that clearly labels it as 90 Degree. If people are just requesting 90-degree in the notes or not requesting a specific degree at all, you may not be getting what you think. Does your's actually read as 90 degree anywhere phatsacks?

-Kevin

**Phatsacks** · 08-27-2007, 04:04 PM

My kit came with:

BEF-II 90/50
BEF-III 90/50-T
ESR (metalic sheet)
Note about DBEF 45 out of stock and will ship soon

**BiGGy** · 08-27-2007, 04:36 PM

Originally Posted by changeip

I would think a ultra bright LED upgrade would help more, do you have any pics ? Is it bright enough to see in the sun ?

I havent finished it yet. Yes it will be daylight readable.

My interpretation from that site is that because the ccfls are mounted on the edges and shot down a luminum sheeting the light ends up going both ways back and froward which can be visible if you have ever turned on a raw lcd panel. This film recycles that light and send it in the right direction again and at a better accuracy. So if im right thse films will be useless in my application. Anti glare might be ok.

**kneebuster** · 08-27-2007, 04:43 PM

I ordered my samples last week (Tuesday?) and received them today. Now I just need my display to get here.

**2k1Toaster** · 08-27-2007, 04:50 PM

Originally Posted by kneebuster

I ordered my samples last week (Tuesday?) and received them today. Now I just need my display to get here.

Did you receive a confirmation email from 3m, or did they just arrive at your doorstep?

**Homebrew** · 08-27-2007, 04:56 PM

Originally Posted by Phatsacks

My kit came with:

BEF-II 90/50
BEF-III 90/50-T
ESR (metalic sheet)
Note about DBEF 45 out of stock and will ship soon

Ok thats where I was confused. You were getting the 45 degree. 2k1Toaster I think it was, made reference to a 90 degree DBEF-E(or at least that's how I read it) and Changeip originally said he wished he had gotten it in 90 degree. I was just confused because on the vikuiti website, I have seen no mention of DBEF-E being available in 90 degree. I'm assuming then that people have just been following in Changeip's footsteps and getting the 45 degree.