3m upgrades

**changeip** · 08-21-2007, 03:10 PM

So last night I decided to give the 3M (Vikuiti) products a shot on my lilliput 701. Previously I could not even see the screen in the sunlight while driving, and now after the upgrade I'm happy to say that it worked wonders!

I layered a BEF II 90/50 and DBEF E film behind the LCD panel and it totally helped. Didn't seem to make much of a difference with brightness, however it's much better in the sun, actually still visible in direct sunlight. I swear the aliens made this stuff, there's no way this is made here on earth. : )

http://multimedia.mmm.com/mws/mediaw...66g5ECOrrrrQ-&
and
http://multimedia.mmm.com/mws/mediaw...66GZACOrrrrQ-&

Those 2 films, based on free samples, and 2 hours time I now have an great screen in my truck now.

My question is this ... when someone purchases a 'transflective' upgrade, what films are typically used? This same 3M product or something else ?

PS - gloves and patience definately required.

Sam

**Cheekz185** · 08-21-2007, 03:19 PM

where did u purchase them?

**changeip** · 08-21-2007, 03:36 PM

got them from their samples dept ... they allow you to request 3-4 samples and deliver them within a week. I screwed up and got a 45 degree DBEF though and a 90 degree BEF II / III. I would have been better off getting the same layout for all of them. There is also DBEF on ebay right now for $1.99 a sheet ...

**Cheekz185** · 08-21-2007, 03:38 PM

So what degree do u recommend getting for both?

**swift_gti** · 08-21-2007, 04:57 PM

Cool, can you get some pics of the screen working in sunlight so we can see it in action?
Also you say you put the films behind the lcd panel, i'm probably missing something here but i'm a little confused.. how does that work? I would have guessed the films would go between the touch panel and the lcd or something..

**changeip** · 08-21-2007, 05:11 PM

If I would have read the specs better I would have ordered the 90 degree for both layers ... since you take 2 90's and then turn one of them 90 degrees. cross hatch pattern I guess. I tried to cut my 90 into a 45 but not sure that it works that way.

I will take some pics tomorrow when its sunny and after ive fully mounted it (still need to mount the lcd buttons after the upgrade).

Yes, the film goes between the light source and the LCD panel, not between the LCD panel and the front glass.

**helllordkb** · 08-21-2007, 06:46 PM

yes pictures please

**changeip** · 08-22-2007, 11:48 AM

Here is a pic in the sun this morning... full sun from a 9am angle. Very pleased with the result even though i didn't get it as bright as i could have with 2 films.

**PSYKO_Inc** · 08-22-2007, 02:11 PM

Wow, very impressive results! How big were the sample pieces they gave you? I might crack open my T-View screen and attempt this upgrade. Here's hoping I don't let the smoke out of anything lol