confirmed features of 2008 lilliputs!

**HiJackZX1** · 03-25-2008, 09:26 PM

Originally Posted by NotYou

Spend some time playing with my LCD today, and of course -- it's different then everyone else's! I bought one of the first 2008 Lilliput 629GL Transflective screens that the mp3car store had.

To get into the service menu, make sure that your on any active input and enter "588998" on the remote (nothing different). You can use the remote to navigate and change menu options as well (some people said before they had to use the buttons). However, I have a total of four service menus....

Menu 1 (appears right after entering code)

Menu 2 (press menu button while viewing menu 1)

Menu 3 (press menu button while viewing menu 2)

Menu 4 (press menu button while viewing menu 3)

All of the above show the default options.

What is the Back Car option? from what I understand those screens wait for a signal through the AV line and switches to the one with the signal. When the device with the signal turns off it changes back to the original screen it was on. My EBY701 has a BCK CAR option but I still havent figured out what it does....

**NotYou** · 03-25-2008, 09:32 PM

Originally Posted by HiJackZX1

What is the Back Car option? from what I understand those screens wait for a signal through the AV line and switches to the one with the signal. When the device with the signal turns off it changes back to the original screen it was on. My EBY701 has a BCK CAR option but I still havent figured out what it does....

See my second post for what I beleive the "Back Car" option is. However, I have tried to get it to auto-switch to video input, using both video 1 and video2, and no luck.

Basically, the way I tested was by using my dvd player in the house. I did not connect the dvd player to the LCD monitor in any way. Then, turn on the LCD and set it to PC input with the desktop showing. Then plug in the composite from the DVD player into Video 1 -- no change. Unplug and plug into Video 2 - no change. Tried this over and over with different options in the service menu, and no luck.

Oh well. Guess I could have left the DVD player OFF and connected to the LCD -- then turn the DVD player on/off instead of the way I did it before to see if I had any luck. Don't think it would make a difference, and would have to try later 'cause I don't feel like hooking everything up for testing again right now <g>

**ShawJohn** · 03-25-2008, 10:26 PM

I don't think composite video sends any device triggering signals like Scart and HDMI can.
The monitor must either need an external trigger, or sense the video signal.

So are the new mp3car TF lilli's these with the new LED back lights?
Is that how they have resolved the touchscreen issues by reducing backlight heat output?

**NotYou** · 03-25-2008, 10:31 PM

Originally Posted by ShawJohn

I don't think composite video sends any device triggering signals like Scart and HDMI can.
The monitor must either need an external trigger, or sense the video signal.

There's no trigger wire or similar for these monitors, yet some have reported to be able to autoswitch. So, it must look for an increase in voltage for the composite video connector ... which is common to do in home automation, but not always reliable.

Originally Posted by ShawJohn

So are the new mp3car TF lilli's these with the new LED back lights? Is that how they have resolved the touchscreen issues by reducing backlight heat output?

Havn't used any of the older ccfl screens, but I can say that after being on for about 30minutes there is zero heat anywhere on the screen or in its direct vicinity. LED's give off so little heat, so I'm sure it was part of their strategy

**HiJackZX1** · 03-25-2008, 10:44 PM

Originally Posted by NotYou

There's no trigger wire or similar for these monitors, yet some have reported to be able to autoswitch. So, it must look for an increase in voltage for the composite video connector ... which is common to do in home automation, but not always reliable.

Havn't used any of the older ccfl screens, but I can say that after being on for about 30minutes there is zero heat anywhere on the screen or in its direct vicinity. LED's give off so little heat, so I'm sure it was part of their strategy

Not all of the 2008 screens came with LED. The EBY701 all still use CCFL.

**blackcobra487** · 03-26-2008, 01:35 AM

I'd like to add to the list of features on my 629. I happened to notice that if I hit the left arrow while the display is active, it would cycle through different brightness settings. I know this works on the VGA input because that's the only one I use. I could only assume that it would work for the others. This could be handy when going from day to night. Full brightness to minimal with one touch. Back to full with 3.

**sly** · 03-27-2008, 05:38 AM

Originally Posted by HiJackZX1

They dont, I had to hack mine to have the feature.

how did You hack it? what did You do? did You make any tutorial etc?

**HiJackZX1** · 03-27-2008, 06:23 AM

Originally Posted by sly

how did You hack it? what did You do? did You make any tutorial etc?

I didnt make a tutorial because the method I used is not very convenient. It requires the dismanteling and sodering of the remote. I have 3 Lilliput screens so I had extra remotes. I tried to do the hack directly to the screen and it resulted in the screen not working currectly due to me not knowing how to read and understand curcuit boards. So what I did is I first melted the soder holding the IR bulb to the remote. I then added a red wire and a black wire and attached the bulb to the end (basically extended it) I then opened the screen and placed the bulb right next to the IR reciever on the screen. I did this because I was worried that if someone were to block the IR, the screen would not switch to reverse. I also added a connector so that I can disconnect the IR wire to move the screen. I then sodered a micro relay to the button on the remote that is required to switch between PC/AV1. I ran a line from the 12v+ of the reverse light to the micro relay. So basically what it does is when I go into reverse the micro relay clicks, which simulates a button press, which causes the screen to go to AV1 where the cam is connected. When I leave reverse the micro relay turns off and clicks the other end simulating another button press which brings it back to PC mode. Also as a note, you have to disable AV2, otherwise the screen will not change to the disired spot.

**VMZ** · 04-04-2008, 01:44 AM

Is there any reliable way to tell the 2008 from the 2007-6 models without opening it up and looking?
Thanks

**NotYou** · 04-04-2008, 03:56 PM

Originally Posted by VMZ

Is there any reliable way to tell the 2008 from the 2007-6 models without opening it up and looking?
Thanks

Yes.. the easiest and non-intrusive way is to look at the bezel surrounding the LCD. On the 2008 models, the right side is wider then the left side. There's also some more details on what you can look for in the beginning of this thread.

If your buying it online, make sure you are looking at a picture of the exact model you are getting. From what I've seen, several of the online retailers use generic lilliput/xenarc images which are of previous years..