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    Reason's sunlight readable might get cheap?

    Can someone please tell me for the love of God why optically bonded or transreflective lcds are still expensive?

    Every 200 dollar complete Garmin I've seen looks great in the sunlight,

    not to mention Toshiba has introduced a lightweight laptop that competes with the mac air in being slim and yet has a industry leading transreflective lcd all for 1400 dollars.

    if Garmin and other navi hand held units is spitting out these optically bonded touchscreens and now laptops are sporting transreflective screens (which you know will have to be replaced one day so they will be on ebay for 150 bucks, no?)

    so why is it expensive to buy a stand alone transreflective or optically bonded touchscreen?

    there has to be some source out there.

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    No market demand for a 7 inch transreflective? A carpc isnt exactly the most common thing out there. Most people have not even heard of the hobby.

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    you have a point,

    BUT, there are some 7 inch portable media players that are becoming more common. Granted, I have not seen any that are transreflective.

    But you are right about the 7inch size not being available, there are tons of 4 inch ones that look good though, such as the itouch ipod, it's only 3.5 but it looks damn good for a touchscreen in ambient light.

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    It's the size. The 7-8 inch range is not in high demand at all. In fact, there is almost no demand...it is just us with dash screens.

    The high demands are in the large tablet PC sizes and the small Garmin unit sizes.

    But, as the technology itself gets cheaper to apply, hopefully prices will come down in general.
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    I remember reading a post saying that a 7" VGA monitor with touchscreen cost some guy about 1k when he did his first install. If a screen size that isn't in much demand came down so much, I'm sure the transflective will do the same in due time.

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    Reason it is expensive now is every screen is retrofited. They are not manufactured as transflectives.

    But believe me, $700 for the only part of your CarPC you will interact with every day to make it perfect is not that much to pay. I try not be awake when the sun shines so a crappy screen is ok for me. But if I had to drive/be conscious in the daylight, a transflective is the only way to go. (or reflective but again no demand = expensive)
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    Be advised that some of the cheaper "transflective" screens do NOT optically bond the touchscreen, meaning glare. The ones sold at the mp3car store, do and it is well worth it.
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    Is anyone working to convert a garmin device or any other kind of relatively high-demand product to work with a PC? I can also think of a few multi-function GPS/media players that would supplant much of the PC functionality, but that is perhaps outside the realm of this discussion. From what I can tell, these devices tend to be format limited, capabilities limited, and output (digital sound, high quality dac's, etc) limited.
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    Most of these are also resolution limited. The Garmins are 400x234 or so, not even VGA.

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    Even the 7" screens we get are expensive still considering what you pay for a 20" LCD now days. If some product came out using the technology then it would plummet in price.

    Those net laptops like the Asus EEE PC (10" screen) make me wonder if something will come out soon that we can use.

    http://www.dynamism.com/#Product=kohjinsha_sxSomething like that,but now that is like 1200, instead of 300.

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