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    What about those of us that already own both a TM-701 with the touch upgrade and the Xenarc screen? Any chance of just paying for assembly?

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    I wrote Gain Associates, trying to buy some monitors from them for my company project. They just replied back:
    Please contact Xenarc Technologies Corp., our sales office in the U.S for assistance.
    Armen, what I don’t understand is that you said many times in your other posts that xenarc is just a well known distributor and you are a distributor like xenarc. But I don’t see your info on Gain’s website and you can’t get the monitors for couple months. But if you go to Gain’s website http://www.gain.com.tw/us_lcd.htm, it clearly states that Xenarc is the US sales office!
    For all North, Central, and South American sales inquiries, please contact Xenarc Technologies Corporation, our sales office located in the United States. Gain Associates is proud to bring their product to the Americas under the name brand "Xenarc Technologies," providing exclusive, value added services to the US, Canada, and all of the Americas. Xenarc Technologies can be found at www.xenarc.com.
    Are you sure you are buying from the manufacturer, and not just getting black market goods since you said you are not buying from xenarc? Because xenarc = gain = manufacturer. Not that I want to doubt you, but then how come you received 5 units and now you are saying all 5 had problems. Also, if those units have problem, then how can you be confident using those control boards in your in-dash monitors? From what I understand, the problems that you stated
    Power cable would not fit all the way in and would constantly fall out, VGA cable would not fit properly and every time it moves a little the image distorts, the most annoying problem is the shadows that appear on the screen
    …should be control board related. You are contradicting yourself. Also after you received the 5 units, you posted so many times that you are going to “get them soon,” but never did. Why didn't you mention the problems BACK THEN, instead of now when you can't deliver as promised?

    In addition, I feel the prices that you posted for the VGA upgrade is ridiculously high. It seems like you are buying the touchscreen kits from EELY because they are exactly the same as the one I seen at their show booth. You are selling them at least double the price that EELY is selling them at, which is $39. That is single unit price. I am sure you get more discount from them if you buy in quantity. Can you explain? I have nothing against you. I go to a lot of expo. I also know a lot of lcd manufacturers in Taiwan and China. But what you are telling board members just doesn’t sound right.

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    AHLU, a lot of people have dealt with Armen from this board and to my knowledge had nothing but good things to say about him. I am one of those people I just purchased a TM-701 from him.

    Not sure what his actual title is but what he does is offer a product that no one else does. Yes he is simply re-selling other equipment but it is his packaged deal and research you are paying for.

    The TM-701 I got from him was with the touch controller. Yeah maybe I could've bought the components did all this myself. But he has experience at it, and does a nice job plus if he blows one up that is for him to eat not me. So yeah the little bit extra is well worth it.

    What came in the mail was an In-Dash TM-701 with touch controller already installed, all cables ran through the housing, and pre-wired. All I had to do was hook it up. I think that even if he is charging more, the price is justified. He spends his time doing this. To my knowledge THERE IS NOWHERE else you can get any kind of in-dash 7" LCD with a touch controller already installed, and works via USB. If there is, then great list those URL's here and let's get some competition going.

    Until then Armen had a nitch market, and therefore can charge more. With competition comes less research people can just take ideas from others. But so far I think he is the leader in this extremely nitch market of In-Dash touch screen displays. As far as the Xenarc screens, I don't doubt the units had issues, i ordered one through i-zone-3 and it shipped with a bad controller.

    Just my .02 but I think he is offering something that people here want, and isn't available elsewhere, and he DELIVERS!

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    Unhappy Have you received my order...

    Hey Amen,


    I ordered an indash lcd and touch screen kit from you early this week from your web site and have still heard nothing about progress.. I have sent you numerouse emails but you have not replied to any of them ? Do you still have the parts in stock ? Will I receive a tracking number ? Will you quote me on shipping to Australia before you debit my credit card ? Any information would be great.

    Thanks Mate

    Martin WIlhelm

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    Originally posted by Zeinin
    dude, if you could get the tm-7002s in black, that would be AWESOME. i used up my din slot on my head unit, and my car's interior is black. so i would rather not paint it... but hey. thanks alot!

    lemme get this straight.. the xenarc and the tm701 lcd panel are the same? so the only diffrence is the interface?
    Next time I'll order these monitors I'll get Black. They go fast so it shouldn't be too long.

    Yes, the LCD Panels are the same. The difference is in the controller boards.

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    Originally posted by Lytheum
    so if i allready have a xenarc it would cost me $200 for the in dash housing and LCD panel?

    how hard is it to put the xenarc in the housing? I am really interested in this cause space is tight in my car and in dash would be great.
    Originally posted by Birrman54
    similar question, for those of us who already own a xenarc, is there an in dash upgrade kit we could purchase?

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    I am getting (especially for this) TM-701L without the Controller Boards so that the price is lower and I don't end up with lots of spare parts

    Installation is not to hard just need to be patient and very careful. For those that already have a xenarc you will need to unsolder all the buttons and the light so that everything fits. Then you will need to run wires from every button on the controller board to the appropriate button on TM-701L (menu, up, down, etc...) The hardest part will be figuring out how to run the VGA cable and the power cable so that the monitor move in and out correctly.

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    Originally posted by Superfly
    good stuff! -- any expected availability date?
    I am going to need to figure out all the details with the installation so that I can have a working unit and place an order and start building. Hopefully in 30 days I can have something for you guys. By that time probably we'll know more details about the motorized in-dash VGA monitor and everybody can decide what to go with.

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    Originally posted by lbk
    What about those of us that already own both a TM-701 with the touch upgrade and the Xenarc screen? Any chance of just paying for assembly?
    I don't see why not. I just have to figure out how to run the cables.

    Thanks for the support!

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    Originally posted by AHLU
    I wrote Gain Associates, trying to buy some monitors from them for my company project. They just replied back:

    Armen, what I don’t understand is that you said many times in your other posts that xenarc is just a well known distributor and you are a distributor like xenarc. But I don’t see your info on Gain’s website and you can’t get the monitors for couple months. But if you go to Gain’s website http://www.gain.com.tw/us_lcd.htm, it clearly states that Xenarc is the US sales office!

    Are you sure you are buying from the manufacturer, and not just getting black market goods since you said you are not buying from xenarc? Because xenarc = gain = manufacturer. Not that I want to doubt you, but then how come you received 5 units and now you are saying all 5 had problems. Also, if those units have problem, then how can you be confident using those control boards in your in-dash monitors? From what I understand, the problems that you stated

    …should be control board related. You are contradicting yourself. Also after you received the 5 units, you posted so many times that you are going to “get them soon,” but never did. Why didn't you mention the problems BACK THEN, instead of now when you can't deliver as promised?

    In addition, I feel the prices that you posted for the VGA upgrade is ridiculously high. It seems like you are buying the touchscreen kits from EELY because they are exactly the same as the one I seen at their show booth. You are selling them at least double the price that EELY is selling them at, which is $39. That is single unit price. I am sure you get more discount from them if you buy in quantity. Can you explain? I have nothing against you. I go to a lot of expo. I also know a lot of lcd manufacturers in Taiwan and China. But what you are telling board members just doesn’t sound right.

    Xenarcs link was added very recently because I haven't seen it before. If Xenarc is the US sales office that is OK with me, more power to them. It is not uncommon for big companies like Xenarc and Gain to join forces and go after the little guy. It is the best way to control prices and keep them High. It seems that from the time you joined you have been questioning me and trying to find something wrong with our company. In other posts you just talk about Xenarc so I ask you - why would you email Gain instead of Xenarc about your order? You said that they are the manufacturer why not go strait to them?

    black market goods
    Where would you get this idea?

    When I got my samples I tested them briefly to see if they worked and hadn't touched them again until I sold one to a member on this board. He wasn't too happy with monitor because of different problem but that made me go back and inspect the rest of the monitors more closely. That's when I found the shadow and cable problems. The reason for me not having these monitors in-stock is because I wasn't going to order another batch of these monitor with the same problems nore sell the rest of them to anybody else. I don't enjoy selling bad products and then have to RMA all of the orders. Unlike Xenarc I can't afford to ship products back and forth.

    how can you be confident using those control boards in your in-dash monitors? From what I understand, the problems that you stated …should be control board related. You are contradicting yourself.
    I am not contradicting myself you're just not reading carefully, this is from my first post:

    I talked to the manufacturer about the shadows problem and finally got a positive response:

    quote:
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    we improved the control board of GA-700Y, through our test, the question you inquired are never happen again.
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    also I am going to try to work with them to make a custom VGA cable (ribbon cable maybe) that will work better with the in-dash housing.


    In regards to the touchscreen question - I am not buying from EELY and also I remember someone on this board already telling you that you are welcome to do your own group buy or anything else that you would like to help the community. Why not put up some your money and purchase some products for the community? Make sure they fit though

    If you think prices are too High you can always buy from Xenarc

    Let me know if you have any more questions...

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    Re: Have you received my order...

    Originally posted by Mwilhelm100
    Hey Amen,


    I ordered an indash lcd and touch screen kit from you early this week from your web site and have still heard nothing about progress.. I have sent you numerouse emails but you have not replied to any of them ? Do you still have the parts in stock ? Will I receive a tracking number ? Will you quote me on shipping to Australia before you debit my credit card ? Any information would be great.

    Thanks Mate

    Martin WIlhelm
    Hi Martin

    I emailed you when I got the order, you must not have gotten email I sent. I sent it again just now and I also sent you a PM.
    Let me know if you have any questions.
    Thanks,
    Armen

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