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    Still not completely finished, kids been demanding a lot of my time this week. I cut up the bezel a bit to get the touchscreen to fit in, and it's great, but here is some more information that I found tonight that should be useful to all others interested.

    Datasheet for the controller board.

    The 3M product id and part # for the 5 pin to USB connector cable if you don't want to make one yourself is Product ID 7312256 and part # 98-0003-2176-4 through the 3M website. If I had discovered those before I bought the board I would have just bought it at the same time and I wouldn't still be sitting waiting for the connectors so I could make the cable myself.

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    I really should check back here more often....

    I'm glad that someone took the plunge and ordered this and glad that it worked out as well.

    Giodi if you think you got screwed ordering from them, being Canadian (or international as they call it) I have to order a minimum of $100 (they'll gladly top my order up to $100 if I don't order enough) and then I'll be charged shipping on top of that.... UPS to Canada is never cheap and there is always the hidden 'Brokerage and Custom' fees.

    Thanks for the heads up on the other piece.... I'm not much of a modder and would have had to make another $100 order from them for that one piece.

    I may as well just order another complete screen from short-circuit.com as they'll ship USPS. Not fast, but much cheaper.

    I haven't given up on this though.... maybe I can find another Canadian that needs something from these guys, maybe split the shipping fees, make it a little more reasonable.

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    hey Orbserver have you tried any of these its there list for north american distributors and since they have a separate list for US some of these might be canadian distributors. I would look through these and see what you find
    Distributors

    On another note my screen will get here on wednesday along with all my other parts of my build so will start putting it together, so those two that have already started could put up some tips on how to do it cause this will be my first attempt at this stuff that would be great.

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    I went through that list first.... strangely enough, I used to drive for all three or the Canadian Distributors in the past. Sadly they are all require 'membership' access, with application processes and fees... some require multiple thousands of dollars up front... a good way to keep 'little people' from bothering them I suppose. lol

    I even dialed up some old friends that had memberships... those that did still have access kept running into 'minimum qty orders' for 3M products.

    Unless I can convince my current employer to switch all their systems over to touch or some other 3M technology then I'm going to eventually have to deal with AllAmerican or buy another monitor.

    Which, in order to contribute to this thread and not just ***** , brings me to this question.

    Is the upgrade really worth it? Should I buy a screen with the capacitive panel already on it or just get another resistive?

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    I went through that list first.... strangely enough, I used to drive for all three or the Canadian Distributors in the past (Synnex, TechData and Ingram Micro). Sadly they are all require 'membership' access, with application processes and fees... some require multiple thousands of dollars up front... a good way to keep 'little people' from bothering them I suppose. lol

    I even dialed up some old friends that had memberships... those that did still have access kept running into 'minimum qty orders' for 3M products.

    Unless I can convince my current employer to switch all their systems over to touch or some other 3M technology then I'm going to eventually have to deal with AllAmerican or buy another monitor.

    Which, in order to contribute to this thread and not just ***** , brings me to this question.

    Is the upgrade really worth it? Should I buy a screen with the capacitive panel already on it or just get another resistive?

    Orbserver

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    So all my parts for my screen should be getting in today so ill start the process tomorrow most likely cause that extra cable comes in tomorrow (thanks for mentioning that cause didnt know) this is my first attempt at something like this so if one of the two that have already been working on it could post some pics and what they did to help that would be great, Im installing the touchscreen on this screen so hopefully i can make it work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NightJumper View Post
    So all my parts for my screen should be getting in today so ill start the process tomorrow most likely cause that extra cable comes in tomorrow (thanks for mentioning that cause didnt know) this is my first attempt at something like this so if one of the two that have already been working on it could post some pics and what they did to help that would be great, Im installing the touchscreen on this screen so hopefully i can make it work.
    Unfortunately my time line is all skewered cause shipping is all fubar for me at this point, sounds like you may actually get started before me. Giodi put up some really good pictures, it takes a little attention to detail to fully grasp it, I spent a little time wondering where he mounted the controller board, but it's there and in a reasonable place. I'll be posting pics of what I'm doing once all my parts FINALLY come in. Giodi has done a good job of showing what he's been doing and I imagine there wont be much difference for smaller screens (Other than the dremeling, which turned out perfect BTW).

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    This went downhill for me quickly. Got the parts in today, made the cable played with the touch screen for a little, works well, much more accurate. Looks and feels better too.

    The Murphy struck. I was hoping to save the resistive screen that came with the Lilliput for if something went wrong with the capacitive. Gave it a little too strong of a tug while holding it up to cut a length of adhesive and it shattered. There goes the backup, oh well I thought occupational hazard, then I noticed the little tiny shard that has slid underneath some of the screen and prepare myself for the worst.

    Got it up, and there is a small scratch on the LCD that there's just nothing I'm going to be able to do about. It's really small you wouldn't even notice it was there if you didn't know. Unfortunately I know about it. Kinda like the one pixel that's gone dead on my computer monitor that drives me bonkers when I'm watching a movie or TV show.

    Back on topic. I decide to just get over it and move along, start to put the double din mounting frame from bybyte together, need screws a little longer than usual since the screens about twice as thick, not a huge problem, more an inconvenience. Everything is relatively smooth, except I'm guessing that the newest of the 701's has a little bit larger of a connector for the VGA/Power/RCA connector. While I was able to get it in there it's pushing that side of the frame almost to the point of breaking, looks like more work for the Dremel.

    With all that said I wouldn't readily recommend using the bybyte double din for this application, with as much tinkering I have had to do with it I might as well have gotten some MDF and made something work with that. But hey we don't do this cause it's easy we do it for the experience.

    I'll try to get some pictures up later. Left the camera in the car.

    Dammit now I got a splinter in my hand from this old desk........MURPPPPPPHHHHHHYYYYYYY!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by NightJumper View Post
    [...] Im installing the touchscreen on this screen so hopefully i can make it work.
    This looks like a great candidate to work with. Can you show us (well me really) what it looks like on the inside (you're going to ditch the case right).

    Quote Originally Posted by Maddnezz;1389787[...
    With all that said I wouldn't readily recommend using the bybyte double din for this application, with as much tinkering I have had to do with it I might as well have gotten some MDF and made something work with that. But hey we don't do this cause it's easy we do it for the experience.[...]Dammit now I got a splinter in my hand from this old desk........MURPPPPPPHHHHHHYYYYYYY!!!!
    That Murphy guy has been hounding me too for almost 25 years with his rules and stuff; man I hate that guy. Does the 3M controller replace the Lilli's entirely or did I miss something along the way? Are you using the Black Box -N or a ByByte DD Screen bezel. You guy's are really on point with this project Hoping all goes well in the end and that Murphy finds some other guy to mess with.

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