from mp3car store front:
"double din kits pair the finest quality aftermarket dash panel kits from Scosche, Metra, or others with our own double din frame and the Lilliput EBY701 monitor" -- so a screen that would fit the EBY701 would work for a number of different models that are looking for double din solutions...
Yes, the main thing I'm trying to avoid is that "step" you get between the bybyte frame and the LCD touchscreen. Previously this was the only way to fit the touchscreen as you couldn't put a another flat panel on top to make it flush. Now that capacitive screen are available its possible to remove this step for a "cleaner" look.
Originally Posted by nasa
Now you might might be asking, this is all good but how am I going to fix the LCD behind that!
Well if the capacitive overlay was the exact size of the bybyte it can sit on top and then the LCD can be mounted as normal. You will have to trim the inner of the bybyte frame to bring the LCD closer to the panel though. It wont matter if your trimming skills are not up to scratch as they will be hidden by the black trim printed on the underside of the tempered glass panel. Obviously you will have to "glue" everything in place again.
This wont matter as all the LCD's and touch panels are hot-glued in the bybyte frames anyway.
there was a poll/thread a while back that mp3car had used to try to get a idea on the more popular cars of the forum, and which bezels to stock--that might be a good place to start for ideas.
otherwise, the best universal option would be double din-- or 4" tall x 7" wide. i believe the bybyte frame is slightly narrower, and slightly taller
Good point :)
Originally Posted by soundman98
Ok, After looking at a few specs on the metra and Scosche I found out that the cutout size they use is pretty standard. Its slightly smaller than 4" x 7" double din standard which is good. So my plan is to use the metra cutout dimensions and have the tempered glass just smaller than that so it will fit in there nicely with. So what I will probably do is fix this glass to the bybyte frame and have the LCD and driver behind that. I also noticed that if you use those metra custom dash kit inserts, the two tabs on the bybyte frame (glued on anyway) are actually useless if you fix the bybyte frame to the metra kit.
I know attaching the glass will be tricky as I would need to machine out the opening of the bybyte frame for the LCD to fit.
i am still a little worried about the gap between the screen and the touch panel-- that bybyte bezel is near 2mm thick-- that is a pretty big gap imo...
If your going to go through the trouble of mounting these in a Bybyte frame and dash kit, you should just eliminate the tempered glass. Seems like it serves no purpose if it cant be seen? Or I might not grasping what your trying to do with it.
The active area cut-out of the bybyte is 152 x 91mm, the idea was to increase the cutout size to that of the LCD (165x115mm for lilliput 701) and then have the glass panel on top of that. So that 2mm gap will be gone.
Originally Posted by soundman98
The capacitive sensor panel is quite fragile in itself, the tempered glass acts as protection and can be cut to any size. One good flick on the capacitive sensor itself and it will shatter without the tempered glass overlay. Select the right glass overlay thickness and you will have a super thin touch panel. :)
Originally Posted by m2x0p9x
Do you have a picture of the back of this touch panel and glass so we can see what kinda of mounting options we have. It sounds like the touch panel it self isnt bigger then the LCD? So gluing a box made from 1/2" accrylic strips around the lcd/touch panel to keep it from moving left/right , top/bottom. Then using just the plastic bracket from the Bybyte frame that holds the controller to secure it in. I did something similar in my last setup and worked fine.
Good work on the image, thanx.
The touch panel and the glass can easily fit inside the bybyte frame (just need to cut the glass the right size). The main issue is that the active area does not quite match the older style 4:3 size of the lilliput. So what this means is that you will loose 1.5mm on the top and bottom of your screen. You will then have to shrink the display image to fit the touch panel, which is not desirable. The reason why I got this size made was to fit 16:9 LCD's, as there are much more options in terms of higher resolution & quality compared to lilliput monitors. You will notice that all double din head units use a true 16:9 LCD as they are more common these days.
I do have some nice LCD's + driver boards that suit this touchscreen, though I don't see people wanting to upgrade to a new 16:9 monitor just for the sake of having capacitive touch + gesture outputs. Even though if the specs exceed the lilliputs in terms of brightness, viewing angle, resolution and not to mention a more slimmer profile.
The easiest solution would be to have the correct size touch panel for the 4:3 lilliput, but I'm not really in the habit of supporting older style monitors.
I guess if you just want capacitive touch for your lilliput there are actually a few options already available, but they require specific drivers and none have gesture outputs. I'm more of an innovator rather than a "me to" :)
The image above is showing how it could be
mounted without the bybyte frame. Its just using the back bracket from the frame to secure the lcd to the glass. Nothing more. You could even remove the tabs from the back bybyte frame and glue those to the side of the acrylic pieces so people have an area to bolt to a dash kit or straight to there dash. I really think putting the whole thing behind the bybyte takes away from the coolest factor.
But what i mocked up above is what im going to do when these are available as long as you could cut the tempered glass to my specific size of my dash That i posted a few posts back. Im have a minitouch with capacitive right now, but like the look to yours over the bybyte frame look. And the active area is only off by a few mm, this will work awesome.