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    10.4" Open Frame Transflective LCD Monitor with Bonded ELO Touch Screen

    I'm considering this monitor for my spring upgrade from the current 8" widescreen I am using.

    http://www.display-touch.com/open-fr...y/prod_46.html

    Does anyone see any pitfalls with this monitor?

    Here's the specs:

    Has HDMI, VGA & 2 Video Inputs.
    Auto Switch to AV2 for Back-up Camera
    XGA Native Resolution up to 1024x768.
    Brightness is 1000 nits, and the contrast ratio is 600:1

    The touch screen is USB, made by ELO. The LCD panel is made by BOE-HYDIS. Great panel makers! The Bonding, Transflective and LED Upgrades were done by Vertex LCD.
    The LCD carries their PN LTB104XSB-02-L01BE


    Thanks in advance for any comments!
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    I too am thinking about that screen, to replace my dark 8". I have another Metra kit for my camaro that I can cut, and try some glasswork to make it look presentable.

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    I just glanced through it real fast. This caught my attention fast: 5 day no DOA period and 90 days warranty applies.

    Might want to get some clarification on that. "no DOA period". I imagine it should be a 5 day DOA period...
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    I have been to his shop and I bought a 10.1" screen from the guy. He seemed good at what he does and was very nice. I stopped by his shop a couple of times while looking at my choices. I was looking at this screen and ended up getting the screen I got because of the shape of my dash. If you notice this screen is a more square screen. My 10.1 screen is the same width but slightly shorter.

    I believe my screen has the same board on it and you might want to ask him about options.

    My board had one of the video inputs on the board and one on a pig tail. If you want him to he can place the other on the pigtail as well.
    I think the board allowed a solder pad to solder a wire to that runs to the backup switch but the same pigtail that has the video input had an extra pin for this reverse backup switch. I left the one video on the board and had him put the reverse backup lead on the pigtail for me.

    On my screen it came with a switch board for the monitor controls and a remote control. He offered to remove the IR pickup off the switch board and hook it to a couple of wires to make it easy to put the IR in an easy to access location. Since all of the options from the buttons work with the remote I didn't see using just the remote as an option so I had him put it on a pigtail for me.

    I dropped off the screen and a junkyard console to my local car audio shop to have the screen mounted within the console and am awaiting its return. I will post pictures when I get it back. I DO have the board at home and could take some pictures of it this weekend if you want to see what I am talking about with the convertor board. I am assuming it is the same he is using on this screen.

    Rodney

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    Quote Originally Posted by PhilG View Post
    I'm considering this monitor for my spring upgrade from the current 8" widescreen I am using.

    http://www.display-touch.com/open-fr...y/prod_46.html

    Does anyone see any pitfalls with this monitor?

    Here's the specs:

    Has HDMI, VGA & 2 Video Inputs.
    Auto Switch to AV2 for Back-up Camera
    XGA Native Resolution up to 1024x768.
    Brightness is 1000 nits, and the contrast ratio is 600:1

    The touch screen is USB, made by ELO. The LCD panel is made by BOE-HYDIS. Great panel makers! The Bonding, Transflective and LED Upgrades were done by Vertex LCD.
    The LCD carries their PN LTB104XSB-02-L01BE


    Thanks in advance for any comments!
    Is this a single touch monitor or multi-touch? If it is single touch, like the Liliputs, look for capacitive multi-touch for better support in later OSes such as Windows 8. Also, consider driver support. Be sure you install and use the latest drivers for your OS during the grace period/test period.

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    Guys, thanks to all of you for the input. The first hand experience from Rodney is a real bonus!

    Robert: 10.4 in a Camaro dash, I expect that would look amazing!

    detlion: Thanks for the head ups on that, I will confirm the DOA policy. I sent an email to them yesterday on some dimensions of it but have not heard anything back yet.

    Rodney: Great information there, would you have the exact outside dimensions of the 10.1? The shorter height might save me some install grief but I would like to compare the two.

    I also requested to know how deep the screen is with the controller board mounted to the back of it. Maybe you know that dimension?

    As far as a picture of the board, if you look at his web site, there is a second pic of the board and misc. hardware that comes with it. What I really like is the pot control for brightness, I really like hardware control of things like brightness, volume, etc.

    Did you power it up before sending it off to the shop? I'm curious if the 1000 NITS back light looks natural yet insanely bright compared to the lilliputs?

    I anxiously await some pics on your work log when you get the screen/ console back from the audio shop!

    I think the 1024 x 768 res should play nice with W8.1 and the DFX skin I am currently running.
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    I don't know if my screen was Transflective or not but it seemed bright on the benchtop.

    The brightness must be something with the transflex as my screen does not have that. I do not have the dimensions of the screen I am using. We took this screen you are looking at and another screen and matched them up to the hole in my dash it would fit into and the 10.1 I got fit perfectly.

    I don't expect my new console back for probably a month. I told them to work it in between jobs and that I would look to get it back in a month. I have some other stuff I need to do so I am not in a hurry to get it back.

    The screen I had without the controller mounted to it was like 1/4" thick. I told him I would mount the controller to the back on my own. He just uses double sided tape to stick it to the screen so it isn't a big deal to do it yourself.

    On my screen just have to be careful of the touch controller which has a very small connection.

    He told me that Capacitive screens are generally brighter because the touch surface is much more transparent than a resistive screen. He converted a "touch" brand screen I bought from Mo-co-so to capacitive and that screen was much brighter.
    I wasn't worried as much about the NIT on this screen since it will be mounted low in my dash and my truck comes with factory tinted windows on the back doors and rear window.

    Rodney

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    OK, thanks for the clarification, Rodney. Once I get the outer dimensions of the one I am looking at, I will determine if it will fit. There will be some significant changes required to the dash to make it fit so the actual dimensions probably won't change my decision to buy it but I would still like to pre-plan the install a little bit before buying.

    Robert- if you pull the trigger quicker than me, don't be shy with you impression and pics of it!!
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    The problem I am having is the 8" screen I have is unreadable in sunlight, which is my commute home. Also 8" is too small for anything other than front end software, including the windows toolbar at the bottom of the screen.

    -Robert

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    The LCD panel measures 238 x 188mm


    Here are some pics I received to help plan the install:

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    Without the controller board mounted to it, that is one thin panel.


    Time for me to take a look at the dash and dash bezel.....
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