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    Need a reccomendation on AGP vid card with COMP out

    After thinking the picture I was getting out of the SVIDEO out of the radeon 8500 I have would be the best I could get I tried my old 8MB AGP ati rage pro with composite out and the difference was very noticeable. I would be happy with this as it is now, but the card is a bit pants for 3D etc and there is one VERY noticeable scrolling type effect/ artifact that spoils it (and there are lots of rainbow type effects on whites). So what card should I get? I want a card with exceptional composite out that's not gonna cost a lot. Are Nvidia cards any better?

    on a side point I would have thought the TVOUT on the radeon 8500 would be pretty damn good- what gives?

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    Are Nvidia cards any better?
    TV-out varies alot on NVIDIA powered cards, each OEM gets to choose what TV out converter chip they use.

    on a side point I would have thought the TVOUT on the radeon 8500 would be pretty damn good- what gives?
    Make sure it's a Made by ATI not Powered by ATI card. 'Powered by' means a third party OEM made the card, and used whatever TV out chip they felt like.

    Also, are you using a S-Video to composite adapter? Those things take down the quality compared to a card that natively outputs Composite.

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    I did think the powered by and built by thing might have an influence but I wasn't expecting the difference to be that great. I have a Sapphire 'powered by' card. and I am using the s-video out. That probably explains why the composite is SO much better straight off the 5 year old built by ATI 3D Rage Pro.

    I'm off in search of a Radeon 7500 or something BUILT by ATI with proper composite out- would this be the best solution I could go for?

    thanks for your help

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    I'm off in search of a Radeon 7500 or something BUILT by ATI with proper composite out- would this be the best solution I could go for?
    Pretty much. Keep in mind Radeons don't have an RCA connector on them, so you'll need a breakout cable to get composite. Most ATI cards has what looks like an S-Video port (you can even plug in S-Video and have it work), but it has more pins, so that when you plug in a breakout cable you have native composite.

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    if you go for and older radeon they will have rca out... I'm running a Radeon 64MB VIVO pretty much equivalent to the 7200 and have RCA in and out and Svideo out. One of these days i'll upgrade to a new Radeon but lack of $$ keeps me here..
    My brother runs a 9100 (I believe) and says his output off his RCA out is superb as well

    Hope this helps..

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    thanks.

    so should I be looking at cards with s-video out with a view to using a breakout cable? I don't understand how, as the first reply said, they reduce the quality of the picture. surely it's just the same wires but arranged differently?

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    Just my two cents on my past experience these past few weeks...

    My new setup which originally had an EVGA GeForce4 MX 440-8X 64MB VGA/TV left a lot to be desired. The movies I played, for some reason would not size correctly. They looked like they were zoomed in by 250%. I did try to find out why but never figured it out. And this was in ALL programs, ME, M$MP, WinDVD 4 Platnium, Quicktime, and WinAMP. True this card did not have a composite out but I got a quality S-Video to Composite adaptor and it was pretty bad. The screen was wavy and had a little "snow" on the screen. Anyway, I got a new Vid card for my desktop and took the Radeon 7500 from that and swapped it out with the GeForce. I used the 7pin s-video to composite adaptor that came with the my new Radeon 9800. Now my videos play with no issues and the screen, to me, looks a little better...
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    I just hooked up the set-top DVD player direct to the screen using proper gold plated cable and the quality is amazing even though it's composite. I want this kind of quality with a TV out on a graphics card. Is there not a definitive card I should be getting?

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    DVD is a diferent story for quality...You will get that quallity on you composite out on your vid. card. It's the text and other apps that don't look so good.
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