Touch Screen Upgrade

**coucouillu** · 11-07-2005, 04:14 AM

DONATIONS HERE

Last Update : 01/20/2006

URGENT : NEED MP3CAR COMMERCIALs HELP

LIST OF POSSIBLE RESELLER:

TOUCH SCREENs

BULLIER INTERNATIONAL : OUT (Products are too expensive for quality equal to Lilliput's ones)
- 11/15/2005 : 6.9" Touch screen purpose (don't ask why not 7" I don't know) :

minimum quantity :100
73,45€ (without tax) with anti-print option
61,76€ (without tax) without anti-print option
Comparing with original caraterisitics, waiting for sample for test :

- 11/28/2005 : Sample bill received
ABOUT 110€ = USD 128. Donations needed
SAMPLE BILL

- 12/05/2005 : Sample paid : 111,77€.

- 12/09/2005 : Sample received :
Preparing test comparison.

- 01/05/2006 : Tests Start :

1) As expected, X pinout is inverted. Lilliput TS PCB driver interpret left as right and right as left. Two wires need to be inverted (PINS# 2 and 4) to solve the problem.
The 4-wired connector is the same as old on-dash Lilliput screens. That means that doesn't fit with new Lilliput indash screen which touchscreen hasn't any connector. It is just a thin FFC. Adaptor needs to be developed.

These problems could be fixed in factory before production (to be verified...).

Adaptor made for test (adaptor which invert the two X wires) :
-->Touch screen compatible with original TS PCB driver.

- 01/20/2006 : Tests conclusions:

A picture review has been made, comparing the two Touch Screens.

Qualiy of Bullier TS is equal to Lilliput's original ones. 73,45€ (i.e. 88,00€ WITH TAX)are not justified for such touch screen because there is no added value than $50 originals ones.

Bullier international is now out..

AXESS Technology :
Very gentle people.
They are looking for the same products as us. They try to find asian manufaturers.
- 01/03/2006 : Have recontacted them. Most of the Asian manufacturers are in leaves. We wait for the resumption of their activity

3M (French division) :
Waiting for reply. Hopping they will propose something.
- 11/28/2005 : Have recontacted them. Waiting for purpose

ELO TOUCH (French division) :
Not able to custom 4wires resistive TS in 7" 16/9.

ANTIGLARE FILM

FDPSOLUTIONS :

HEA2000 Antireflection Film.
http://www.fpdsolutions.com/content/category/11/31/100/

Vikuiti DBEF Film.
http://www.fpdsolutions.com/content/category/11/59/118/

**coucouillu** · 11-07-2005, 04:22 AM

Hi,

Please could some one give the nickname of a commercial MP3car admin or simply admin. because I have looked for anti glare plastic or less reflective touch screen and have perhaps found a manufacturer.

He ask me a lot of question and I need moderator to clarify all.

2 Solutions:

1) Thin Anti glare film which could be placed in front of the TS

2) TS replacement (need to communicate all informations about dimensions needed)

Are MP3CAR mods interested in or not...?

**Scouse Monkey** · 11-07-2005, 04:28 AM

I have found a few antiglare films too. I have also found a company in cornwall who can coat TS overlays but I need to get one over to them to try. nice triple post!

**djmickyg** · 11-07-2005, 04:48 AM

i been searching for something too
i found some silcone film that sticks on.
but i forget the web site..
i will have to look

**agmsd** · 11-07-2005, 04:55 AM

guys... please keep us updated on the anti glare related stuff... also I've heard that there's new screens coming out to mp3car store with high Nits/cm2... any ideas...

**coucouillu** · 11-07-2005, 04:58 AM

I need to talk to moderators. The compagny seems to want to deal with us

But I am not a compagny...

At the moment I need all measurments of all sreen which need TS (Touch Area/position+global dimensions+ position of flexible cable)

I have already made this for lilliput 7".

please help

The manufacturer waiting for informations

**coucouillu** · 11-07-2005, 06:27 AM

Here is the manufacturer:
http://www.bullier-international.fr/...ti-reflets.htm

Here is an extract of my mail :

These dimensions of the touch screen concern a first product: a screen TFT 7 " of brand Lilliput.

Both possible solutions:

- An anti-glare film in applied to the touch screen already existing :low-cost solution.
- The replacement of the existing touch screen by another equivalente of a point of view dimensionnel, but better from a point of view report reflection/transmission rate of light.

This second solution remains the solution the most waited by the potential users

Solution Premiere: a new touch screen

These data are not verified yet quite (notably the position of the 4 wires flexible cable ).

The paving stone has to answer the following constraints:

- A touch screen RESISTIVE 4 STALKS - Respect for the dimensions given in the document below.
- A touch screen thinest as possible (if possible < 1.5mm but not superior)
- Price lower than 50 USD - US Dollars - (Approximately 42€).

The second solution: an anti-glare.

- A reflection / transmission rate smallest as possible.
- Dimensions 106mmx165mm
- The film should not cancel the feature of the present touch screen which is behind.
- Resistant in scores (because possibility of use of a stilet by the users)
- If possible, a cover resisting to the fat tracks (notably in finger marks).
- Solution the cost of which (to determine) will have to remain derisory with regard to the cost of the first solution.

**lazy_g** · 11-07-2005, 07:04 AM

i hope something come out of thies... if been looking for anit reflection folie voor a lang time now...

**coucouillu** · 11-07-2005, 09:36 AM

Waiting for the answer of the Manufacturer. But where is the commercial mod?

Hey SCOUSE, What about the Backlight Upgrade Project?

**Scouse Monkey** · 11-07-2005, 10:32 AM

Originally Posted by coucouillu

Waiting for the answer of the Manufacturer. But where is the commercial mod?

Hey SCOUSE, What about the Backlight Upgrade Project?

erm, ask jcdillin.

I believe he has ****ed off the chinese tube supplier by requesting naked pics or summit. Or maybe it was the ones of him he sent that broke the camels back!