Is the sunlight problem really _that_ bad??

**nameeri** · 05-03-2006, 08:17 PM

Look at the tranflective review I did. there is a pic of a laptop that has just the 3M anti glare treatment and see for yourself. It wont help for Xenarcs or Liliputs with a touchscreen.

**hunter5482** · 05-03-2006, 11:16 PM

Is seems to me that a lot of the complaints come from convertable owners. Does having a non-convertable help with the viewability? I'm also in kind of a holding pattern on a screen. I have just about everything else ready, I just don't want to waste my money on a screen that I will be disappointed with. I also have a limited budget and can't see a sunlight viewable getting into the $250 dollar range anyway.

**alti** · 05-03-2006, 11:33 PM

There are daylight viewable solutions out there, just not a single one that is easily or cheaply availible. I have a 2000 nit screen in my dash that I run at 1000 (half of the are backlights on) because i do not have a convertible / moonroof and it is blinding at night. But i have no problem reading it during the day. In the end it only cost me around 450-500 for the screen, (controller, screen, inverter, ect) what it did cost me though is months of research, and effort.

Where there is a will, there is a way. If you are willing to invest the time, you will find what you are looking for

**monkeyBox** · 05-03-2006, 11:43 PM

Originally Posted by alti

Where there is a will, there is a way. If you are willing to invest the time, you will find what you are looking for

Care to share your secrets of success? If I found even a 1000-nit screen, I think I'd be happy. I've found some sites with 1000-nit screens, but not in the size I'm wanting (7-inch 16:9).

**alti** · 05-04-2006, 12:19 AM

I did above, you get out what you put in.

From start to finish it took at least 5 months from first planning to actually having the screen in the car.

If there was a link that would solve the delema, I would post it, beleive me. I am not tring to preach from a soapbox here, if i knew what i was getting myself into when i started the process I probibly would have choosen a xenarc and called it a day, all I am tring to say is that it can be done (its wether the total cost monitary and non is worth it).

Good luck with your project.

**EricE** · 05-04-2006, 11:52 AM

If you are contemplating an install and holding off because you are afraid the screen will be unusable then relax. Yes, it’s a pain but it doesn’t ruin the install. The value is there even if you have a regular lilliput. I myself am going to take the plunge….order a new screen (a Xenarc this time for the better controller, send it off to get a TS and Trans mod…then mod my bezel to make it fit) The only reason I can afford to do this though is that I am spending poker winnings, not real money. hehe

**Vinister** · 05-04-2006, 02:03 PM

I say its worth it still, but only if you have a secondary control method.

The best is steering wheel buttons. The next best would be some kind of controller, at the very least, a volume knob. The griffin powermate works well. There's all kinds of good projects and suggestions in the input devices section, so I wouldnt worry about it.

**sebberry** · 05-05-2006, 07:32 PM

I am finding that the Xenarc touch screen almost turns into a mirror when the sun hits it through the sunroof... I have to squint quite a bit to avoid being blinded.

**monkeyBox** · 05-05-2006, 07:34 PM

Originally Posted by sebberry

I am finding that the Xenarc touch screen almost turns into a mirror when the sun hits it through the sunroof... I have to squint quite a bit to avoid being blinded.

Wow, good thing I don't have a sunroof