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    Help a newbie out??

    Hey I have been doing quite a bit of searching via the search function, and I have a few questions.

    1. I am interested in a touch screen tft display for my carputer, is the touch screen and tft/lcd 2 different items?

    2. I read a lot about DennisK kits, but couldn't find anything on ebay about him or links to a webpage?

    3. I want a screen for winamp, windows apps, and dvd. From what I am reading I should at least go with 18 bit?

    4. Should I try to piece a display together or just go with a kit from somewhere?? What is cheaper??

    5. If pieceing a display together is the best way what would be a recommended screen between 7-10" as far as make a model number.

    6. Could someone suggest so more reading to become more familiar with tft/lcd displays


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    Good questions...yes I think most have been answered before.

    bottom line....

    The best quality etc, is with a VGA screen using TFT display.

    (that is other than direct digital)

    The screen in my truck is 640x480, dual scan, and is about 9-10" on diagonal.

    It is good for gps and mp3 but not video.

    Any smaller screen and it becomes hard to reas the text

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    to help you out...

    1. I am interested in a touch screen tft display for my carputer, is the touch screen and tft/lcd 2 different items?

    an lcd is a liquid crystal display. tft means thin film transistor. it is a type of lcd. higher quality than the lcd screen i, say a calculator. a touch screen is a device that fits over the screen that allows you to touch the screen to click. it is basically a sandwich of 2 sheets of glass with a clear sheet in between that transmitts voltages to determine the point you touched.

    2. I read a lot about DennisK kits, but couldn't find anything on ebay about him or links to a webpage?

    DennisK is the guy that sold a bunch of us screen kits on ebay. look up "mp3 lcd" or "sharp tft" to see if he has any screens up. his username on ebay is: a2z@dwk.org , you can check if he has auction that way too.

    3. I want a screen for winamp, windows apps, and dvd. From what I am reading I should at least go with 18 bit?

    it depends. the DennisK screens are 12 bit, but have a good control card, so they look very nice. if you get an 18 bit screen, you can go with a cheaper controll card and get good results. the control card is going to be the big money item however.

    4. Should I try to piece a display together or just go with a kit from somewhere?? What is cheaper??

    kits are easier. (duh) but if you can find parts then piecing something together is probably gonna be cheaper, cuz someone else hasnt already done all the "part aquiring" for you. www.earthlcd.com has a good selection of kits, but they are not cheap.

    5. If pieceing a display together is the best way what would be a recommended screen between 7-10" as far as make a model number.

    i like the sharp screens, but nec also has a good range of products. look on ebay all the time, use search terms like "sharp lcd", "nec lcd" ..."tft" etc. also, visit the for sale forum, there are always links to screens for sale that someone else has already found but usually doesnt need.

    6. Could someone suggest so more reading to become more familiar with tft/lcd displays

    reading the spec sheets is helpful for some people. i like to read as much of the display forum as i can. anything that looks important i try to keep up with it.

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    also, dont be afraid to ask questions, but dont ask questions that have be answered dozens of times.
    read as much as possible from the forums.
    plan out your system as much as you can in advance, somethings will change, but it will save you the headache of trying to plan everything on the fly. trust me on that one.
    have fun, this is a hobby, not something that is going to make or break your life.
    and finally, ask for help when you need it, if you dont know how to wire a computer, find a friend who can, ask a computer tech. likewise with any electronics in your car. you dont want to fry the computer in your car. know what you are doing, or find someone to help!

    wow....long post!!
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    what is j&j speed shop?

    own your own business?

    just wondering....

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    Originally posted by mp3z24
    an lcd is a liquid crystal display. tft means thin film transistor. it is a type of lcd. higher quality than the lcd screen i, say a calculator
    Just expanding on Mike's post, TFT screens tend to have a large viewing angle than LCD screens. Rember the old laptops back in the 80s, where if you weren't straight infront of the sceen, it would look blank. What ever screen you go for, it's a good idea to check the viewing angle first
    And you say people actually pay money for M$ Windows?
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    the control card is going to be the big money item however
    I have a question on the controller card. I did some looking on earthlcd.com and digital view. I have no problem spending a little more on a controller card, but which one is the best to go with? Some look like they don't require a video card, like the pci one on earthlcd, and others look like cards which would require a vga video card also. Which is the best way to go as far as this is concerned. I already have a vga card I can use, but if I could eliminate a component from my carputer case that would be great. Also which controller would provide the best picture/quality with 12 bit and 18 bit screens, and which is the most universal, so if I would want to change tft displays in the future to upgrade?

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    As far as owning my own shop yes & no. I am still a student and my father still pays all the bills at the shop, but I pretty much run everything there and he is never there. We are primarily GM & Ford and now I am getting into imports Honda/Acura mostly. We do mostly late model high performance work, with EFI, which is mostly 3rd & 4th generation camaros, and mustangs from 87-present

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    Originally posted by Rob


    Just expanding on Mike's post, TFT screens tend to have a large viewing angle than LCD screens. Rember the old laptops back in the 80s, where if you weren't straight infront of the sceen, it would look blank. What ever screen you go for, it's a good idea to check the viewing angle first




    Just expanding on Rob's post, there are 2 types of LCDs: active matrix and passive matrix. Active matrix displays -- often referred to as TFT (Thin Film Transistor) are the most common. A less expensive alternative is a passive matrix display such as DSTN (Double-Layer Supertwist Nematic) or HPA (High-Performance Addressing), or dual scan. These displays have a narrow viewing angle and are subject to "ghosting" where the pixels do not refresh as often as the TFT active matrix.

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