Pioneer flip-out 7" is rgb???

**infinitiqx4** · 04-14-2002, 08:37 PM

http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/Pi...9,2234,00.html

Check it out, these have RGB and RCA input for video (along with other pioneer connections). I like it since it interfaces with the Pioneer Premier P930 deck and has built in DVD.

Anybody used one? ?Can I just hook my regular video card up to the RGB connector? Quality any good?

**infinitiqx4** · 04-14-2002, 09:24 PM

oops... more searching has taught me that vga is NOT rgb... yeah... anyone got one of these guys hooked up? I PMed BJ to hear how his attempt went.

**Adam F** · 04-15-2002, 11:49 AM

I beleive that RGB input is for hooking up external GPS navigation systems. And you cannot just hook up a TV out to the RGB.

**Skippman** · 04-18-2002, 10:41 AM

Ok, heres the deal.

The RGB inputs are propriatry. Everyone I've asked he has always told me it's not possible to pipe VGA into RGB. To be quite honest, there all a bunch of idiots . If you do a search you'll see I asked this question a while back. I've successfully hooked RGB up to my home HDTV with no problems. I had to do a custom refresh rate, but nothing remarkably difficult. While people here are able to build things on a almost component level most seem incabable of understanding basic home-theater PC technology.

It is theoretically possible. I've been working with a local installer on this one and haven't seen any reason why it shouldn't work. He's contacting Pioneer to get the wiring schematics for the GPS nav inputs. If nothing else I may have to add a resister to the line bundle on one of the inputs to make it think theres a GPS unit connected. No big deal. But if you're looking for help with this, you've come to the WRONG place.

**infinitiqx4** · 04-18-2002, 01:27 PM

good luck with it and let us know.

**Falcon62Travis** · 04-18-2002, 02:06 PM

The Shuttle FV50 Motherboard specs say that it "Supports Composite, S-Video, and Component R/G/B Output Signals."

Have a look here:
http://www.spacewalker.com/english/m...asp?number=175

So is that the same RGB as the RGB you're talking about?
How is RGB compared to VGA?

**Skippman** · 04-18-2002, 02:23 PM

There are two standards in component video. And two standards in monitors.

Component Video

RGB - Red/Green/Blue

RGB uses 5 leads to the monitor or tv. Red, Green, Blue, Horizontal, and Verticle. This is exactly the same as the RGB monitor standard. See below.

Component Y/Cr/Cb

This is the component video standard that is used for DVD. It consists of a Red (Cr or Croma Red) lead, a Blue (Cb or Croma Blue), and a Green (Y) lead. The Green also has a 60 htz signal being piped down it to maintain the sync rate of the image. If you hook just the green lead up, you get a green/black image. This is NOT the RGB that is used in most applications.

Monitor Video

RGB

Most larger monitors use a standard called RGB. By using a "break out" cable they can take a standard 15 Pin VGA signal and break it out to 5 distinct cables. Red, Green, Blue, Horizontal, and Verticle. The colors provide croma data to the CRT, while the Horizontal and Verticle inputs refrence the refresh rates of the monitor. Say 70htz by 45htz. These outputs have been successfully moded to output component video.

VGA

90% of average monitors use the standard 15 pin VGA connector. This cable contains grounds, croma, and refresh rates to the monitor. Some of the newer ones even use pins for power saving features. Most of the 15 pins remain unused.

The inputs on the Pioneer are more than likely component video inputs. But until I get the engineering schematics, I cannot tell.

**CrazyLittle** · 04-18-2002, 02:54 PM

Infinity - You're already spec'ing out an ATi All-in-Wonder. Just use the composite out on that to output your video. You won't gain anything by trying to hack apart your reciever/video card just to use the RGB inputs. The screen itself has a resolution of 1440x238 (see tech specs on that pioneer site) so you're not gaining anything from trying to hook it up directly that way. A proper VGA TFT LCD is pretty much the only way to get pristine computer graphics into a small space in your car.

Originally posted by Skippman
Ok, heres the deal.
etc.. etc... etc...

You'll gain no friends here with that kind of attitude, young man. (I'm actually restraining my flame skills here)

**infinitiqx4** · 04-18-2002, 03:12 PM

I'm also specing out a 10.4" CTX VGA touchscreen now too used from a forum guy ;-) Like you said (and other people have been telling me) VGA will be better. Unfortunately I think the screen is low nits. Maybe if I inset it far enough in the dash it'll block direct light (5% tint all around too). We'll see, its worth trying.