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    Same thing here, i'm aiming at building the ultimate carputer frontend. And it has to be Open Sourced, of course

    I'm also interested in any feedback for Navit. SDL gui can be grabbed here : http://www.kazer.org/navit/navit_sdl.tgz

    I'd be happy to help integrating it into any other frontend.

    Let me know!

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    why to use x and a window manager

    one reason many people choose linux for a car pc is because its open, flexable, and reliable, but when you try to write a program that does it all, not matter how well the program is written it looses the flexabiliy of linux.

    Maybe a user lives in a country your built in map program doesn't support and they have a seperate program that works fine they want to run, by basing your distro of x and a lightweight wm they can run an external program to handle whatever they want, this is the approach the team working on nghost is taking, and definately what i have an interest in using, and hopefully finding the time to contribute some.

    Silverwolf has made some great advancements since the last version, and looks sharp now, but from my understanding it is going to be a standalone program outside of x. for many people that want multimedia proformance in the car this will work great and be easy for them.

    but for those of us that want to be able to try new things i'm guessing nghost will draw our attention.

    Both teams are doing a great job, and i look foraward to seeing the results.

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    WindowMaker looks good. I'll have to check it out.

    BTW, If anyone wants to help out and knows how to code in basic, nGhost's skin editor needs a maintainer. Eubey has written all the code for it in the cross platform REAL BASIC and has done a really good job . However he has handed over the code to the community so he can get back to his main job, really awesome graphics. If anybody wants to pick it up and run with it feel free. PM me or eubey if you are interested. Thanks.
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    Hey guys just got back form vacation and was playing with some new linux code and I found a distro that literally blows linux ice out of the water. It is slax linux 6.0 (currently RC4) It has linuxICE fiesty beat by 150mb, (its only 200 mb iso) it boots faster, has better hardware detection, is faster on my test machine and yet it runs a stripped down version of KDE. This distro detected my touchscreen, KB, mouse, all ntfs and fat32 drives, network connection, and wifi all without user intervention and IMO has more functionality than the current linuxICE distro, and its still running live, not even installed to HD yet! I'm not trying to discourage your work at all kev but I think im am going to move over to this distro to start my linux car software. SInce KDE is the GUI I can use Qt to code a frontend for it. I've always liked KDE for a GUI and the fact this distro is based off slackware has me sold. Not sure how the developers got it to be so small and fast yet so feature rich but I highly recommend you DL it and try it out. Starting with this distro and adding nGhost may save you months of development.

    http://www.slax.org/

    Its also very easy to embed which makes me a happy camper as its the only way I roll.
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    Quote Originally Posted by blk02si View Post
    Hey guys just got back form vacation and was playing with some new linux code and I found a distro

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    http://www.slax.org/
    Hey cool, thanks for posting this. I am going to try using it in my setup I think since it has a stripped down console only version ready to go. It appears that adding X and FVWM will get me to around 90MB for a full install w/o gpsdrive for the M3.

    It looks a lot easier than the Gentoo stuff I've been doing. Why do custom when turnkey just works?

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    Hi all,
    forgot linuxICE a while, it's still under heavy development and needs to be tuned a lot. It's taken from ubuntu, and ubuntu is famous for his great compatibility, not for high speed and lightweight!
    The main goal for now is to build an easy, light, versatile and robust frontend, that does all the common tasks performed in a car.
    We have different needs, I know, but I think that a modular, plugin based frontend could be a perfect base for anything we need.
    I prefer to have a single, good-looking application that does everything (music, gps, phone interfacing) rather than using a simple interface that launches other applications - it looks more OEM!
    X or not X? programming in SDL lets you choose to run your app in X or via directFB, or even in fbdev, and, why not, in windows.
    I thing nghost has a great potential, the only thing to do is help Kev to develop and test it out!!!

    just my 2 cents,
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    nGhost needs more documentation, I could not get it to play media and I can usually make anything work. I like the plugin based idea, and I know windows software is taboo in the linux world, but RR is open source and I think a lot can be learned from it. The source is freely available and I've been browsing it in VB6 to get a feel for it.
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    I join blk02si on this point. You guys already have a community of users for nGhost. You should maybe start a wiki. Most of your docs are either outdated or incomplete (that's not a blame, documentation is maybe the hardest thing to do when developing software). But it will greatly help. And, no, a post in a forum with a tutorial is not a documentation to me It's impossible to maintain, comments follow that may be outdated, etc. Forums are great to discuss, but documentation need organization and clarity.

    Just my 2cents, too

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    Quote Originally Posted by KaZeR View Post
    I join blk02si on this point. You guys already have a community of users for nGhost. You should maybe start a wiki. Most of your docs are either outdated or incomplete (that's not a blame, documentation is maybe the hardest thing to do when developing software). But it will greatly help. And, no, a post in a forum with a tutorial is not a documentation to me It's impossible to maintain, comments follow that may be outdated, etc. Forums are great to discuss, but documentation need organization and clarity.

    Just my 2cents, too
    wiki is already up and running...
    http://www.nextabyte.com/wiki/index.php?title=NGhost
    but documentation is poor, I agree with you!
    bye
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    Quote Originally Posted by barb3tta View Post
    wiki is already up and running...
    http://www.nextabyte.com/wiki/index.php?title=NGhost
    but documentation is poor, I agree with you!
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    barb3tta aka SanzoGhenzo

    Well, that's rather and ad and a developer status tool
    The only doc i was able to found was the skinning howto.
    A word about the -u option for example is usefull for new users (even if it doesn't work for me yet )

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