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    Quote Originally Posted by reece146 View Post
    X Window can be set up to look like anything you want.


    http://moose.ca/content/projects/davis/DAVIS_v03a.png
    Do you have GPS software integrated reece? I see the button for it just wondered what you are using because regardless if the frontend is running on the OS layer or the application layer some GPS code has to be selected and integrated to the build. Im testing a few open source GPS apps right now but this is another area that needs attention and suggestions.



    On another note I would be more than happy assisting in the porting of my RR skin to use as a linux frontend layout. Its a very clean, easy to use interface and I coded it myself for RR and I know changes would need to be made to the code to send commands to mplayer instead of winamp. Not sure if any of the button location code can be used or to start a rewrite but im hell bent on reverse engineering RR to linux. There are many apps that are cross platform but im not sure the limitations in the VB6 code.

    Another member who I know can help with this is entilap. He coded a frontend in C++ that used RR skins and mplayer as a backend although it ran on windows I know he could help. Hopefully he will start coming around more as he has said he has newer code than is currently released.

    RR to me makes sense as a clone or port candidate since it is, like linux, completely open source.

    Ahh just more ideas spilling out but we all know that together if we work toward similar goals we can have some software that does blow windows out of the water.
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    There are many apps that are cross platform but im not sure the limitations in the VB6 code
    ifaik, VB6 code will not run in Linux. You'll have to convert the VB code to something like Real Basic or VB.Net (which you can run using mono). Plus RR uses winamp as its backend. You'd have to recode it to use something else like xmms, gstreamer, or mplayer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by blk02si View Post
    Do you have GPS software integrated reece? I see the button for it just wondered what you are using because regardless if the frontend is running on the OS layer or the application layer some GPS code has to be selected and integrated to the build. Im testing a few open source GPS apps right now but this is another area that needs attention and suggestions.
    I am using gpsdrive. Some dated/minimal screen shots can be found here:

    http://moose.ca/davis

    I know that people here are down on gpsdrive because it is not vector and does not do turn-by-turn stuff. That will be changing in the future. If you have been following the gpsdrive mailing list you will have heard that many enhancements are on the horizon including using the openstreetmap database for turn by turn.

    In my case I was originally more interested in displaying topo maps (still am actually) for use when navigating in the bush. I probably won't bother adding the screens when I get to adding a carputer to my new (to me) E36 M3.

    To me, gpsdrive is the definitive way forward for GPS w/ Linux. It has the developer maturity and interest by developers. The latest SVN snapshots may even have prototpe t-by-t stuff in it already. Don't ask how to get it working as I haven't spent any cycles on it all (too many projects, not enough hours in the day).

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    I checked on OSM, and the database is still very small, for example, I live near Chicago, and that whole area is barely covered in OSM. There's still lot od effort to be put into filling up the database.

    Right now I'm using roadnav. The maps from US Census Bureau are not the best, but at least most of the roads are more or less ok. Roadnav needs few fixes though regarding actual navigation (t-by-t). It makes mistakes figuring out current position, then it needs to recalculate the path. Calculations take time, so by the time it is done, you are in different position, and it needs to recalculate again, and so on. I believe this will be fixed soon.

    I think linux solutions need some kind of frontend for maps taken from commercial products, like iGuidance, or Streets and Trips, since many of us already own such software for windows, it would be nice to port it. I didn't read the licenses though, and don't really know how does it look like against the law....

    I tried iGuidance under wine, and it works just fine on my 1GHz/512MB epia w/ 4gig CF drive. But I'd prefere to have native (best open source) frontend.
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    Hi everybody
    i'm joining this thread to tell my "story"
    [I apologize for my english I may make mistakes, feel free to correct me.]

    I'm on Carmedia.org, which seems to be the only carputer french speaking forums. I tried to ask for help there, they're not very opened, (Linux is difficult, linux does not work, linux does not have GPS software ..)
    I tried to ask for developpers to make complete frontend with me, but I only have programming basis (C) and learning Python by myself to make a portable software. (Yes I'm not like them, making only closed source code) So couln't make it all alone.
    My goal was to take the windows frontends cons and make it "pros" with this soft.
    For example, all GUI frontends totally forgot LCD screens, whereas it could be a cool feature for users who don't want to light on their screens everyday for short trips.
    So, I tried to join existing project (ICE), bringing all help I could, but they were not really interested in. And I need LCD complete support while I do not have 7" screen for that moment (like were all carputer projects before screens cames cheaper), they said that was not their priority (I understand, but couldn't continue that way)

    Finally, I didn't find any community while I was ready to do the maximum to help anybody.

    Now I'm still looking for any interesting project, or developper(s) to make an entire one.
    For GPS navigation I'm waiting for PC Navigator, I choosed gentoo to have really quick boot and only useful stuff.

    I think that could help me to prove that Linux is GOOD (and not only Free) on Carmedia.org forums.

    So, where do we begin ? I'm here for wanted collaboration !

    Project progress: 20%

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    Well, if you are offering your help, the best thing you can do, and which is really really useful and important, is to test software and give feedback to the developers. There are several open source projects in theses forums would could really use your help as a beta tester.

    If you're looking for help, it's always difficult to try to convince people to start from scratch a new project with you, because too often this simply leads to nothing. The best thing you can do is to try to work this lacking feature yourself. I'm sure the people of ICE/nGhost will help you if you have any questions (but they won't do it for you, since it's not their priority).

    Don't be discouraged, it's just the way collaborative work, imo. It's not perfect, for sure, but i think it's understandable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Epy View Post
    I tried to ask for developpers to make complete frontend with me, but I only have programming basis (C) and learning Python by myself to make a portable software. (Yes I'm not like them, making only closed source code) So couln't make it all alone.
    My goal was to take the windows frontends cons and make it "pros" with this soft.
    For example, all GUI frontends totally forgot LCD screens, whereas it could be a cool feature for users who don't want to light on their screens everyday for short trips.
    So, I tried to join existing project (ICE), bringing all help I could, but they were not really interested in. And I need LCD complete support while I do not have 7" screen for that moment (like were all carputer projects before screens cames cheaper), they said that was not their priority (I understand, but couldn't continue that way)

    Finally, I didn't find any community while I was ready to do the maximum to help anybody.

    Now I'm still looking for any interesting project, or developper(s) to make an entire one.
    For GPS navigation I'm waiting for PC Navigator, I choosed gentoo to have really quick boot and only useful stuff.

    I think that could help me to prove that Linux is GOOD (and not only Free) on Carmedia.org forums.

    So, where do we begin ? I'm here for wanted collaboration !
    Hi,
    if you want some LCD driven carpc software look at here:
    http://cmms.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/...ge=information
    http://www.chaos.org.uk/~altman/mp3mobile/
    http://www.thesoundlab.co.uk/TA/carpcguide/guide.txt

    I plan to add LCD support to nGhost, when I have time and when I figure out how to grab the information I want to display
    LCD4linux is a great piece of software that helps you to display anything on a graphical ol alphanumeric LCD. It's simply a matter of writing a plugin for your preferred application (say, mplayer/silverwolf/nghost/...)
    http://ssl.bulix.org/projects/lcd4linux/

    hope this helps
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    Thanks for help, links and replies, I'll try.

    Project progress: 20%

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    Any word on an updated nghost?

    Im running a nice full install of slackware 12 right now and Im toying around with QT.

    Too bad we all don't have identical Motherboards / hardware, that would make this stuff a snap.
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