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    Windows frontends suck

    I feel I was provoked by the vast number of windows frontends that consistently appear that don't introduce anything new.

    I hope this doesn't come across as arrogant. I am presenting this as just an FYI in case anyone wonders if any frontend system really stands out from the rest:

    http://wiki.openice.org/index.php/Wh..._than_the_rest
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    I've been wondering for a while now, but just haven't had a chance to test myself. How well does nGhost play with compiz-fusion's desktop cube feature? I'm thinking that it would be neat to switch between Navigation and Music by spinning the cube. Just a useless eye candy feature. Thoughts?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tidder View Post
    I've been wondering for a while now, but just haven't had a chance to test myself. How well does nGhost play with compiz-fusion's desktop cube feature? I'm thinking that it would be neat to switch between Navigation and Music by spinning the cube. Just a useless eye candy feature. Thoughts?
    in an early icepanel demo, I used compiz to show off window manager control. The same thing can easilly be done in nghost as they are based off the same framework.

    [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tndrZLqpom0[/media]

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    I tried LinuxICE as the first front end in my carpc project. There were many things I liked about it, but in the end I switched to xp with roadrunner. Heres why...

    1) I never used linux before so I had a steep learning curve to overcome.
    2) I wanted to use fusion brain for my steering wheel controls
    3) I was anxious to install the carpc, and I didn't want to wait for a final version of nghost
    4) XP/roadrunner is more supported

    I'm not trying to bash ice at all, in fact I think it is better as a carpc os than xp. My system ran fast, stable and booted up and resumed from hibernation very quick. The biggest problem that made me switch was my lack of linux knowledge. I am not a programmer and things were very difficult for me to try and troubleshoot.

    But...... if in the future there was a finalized "plug and play" version of ice/nghost with support for the hardware I wanted to run I would be very tempted to switch back. Hopefully by then I will understand linux a little better.
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    Hey kev000, there's just a couple of things I'm confused on. LinuxICE = stand alone distro? So I don't want that, because I'm wanting to use ubuntu Hardy. So I just grab nGhost from their repos instead correct? And do I want stable or unstable? I see there's a final version out, is it still in the unstable? I looked around for some documentation, but came up fruitless.

    EDIT: One more question. If I were to install this on my home machine (Hardy also) will I open myself up to any problems? I've running mysql, apache, all the php junk, compiz, etc. Does nGhost do any customization or "take-over" of any of the default apps? Maybe I'll throw it in VirtualBox first just to test it out.
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    I think that's a bit harsh...

    Its not that windows frontends suck, it is just that there are people who constantly reinvent the wheel. Not always a bad thing, but recently there have been a lot of "I am making a frontend in language "X" and will do nothing different from any of the others that have been around for years"

    again it is the reason why there are more viruses for windows than for linux (which does have some btw...) windows is more popular, more people program on it, therefore those that are just learning are probably on a windows box, and making a non-revolutionary frontend for windows.

    Something that might help LinuxIce's appeal to windows only people, is to make one of those distributions that installs itself virtually if inside a windows environment. I forget which distro is the one that started it, but in windows it shows up as an exe. Stores the entire OS to 1 single file, can be run inside of XP/Vista. That way those that dont want to do a full install on a seperate computer to check something out, they can run it and see how they like it inside friendly environment.
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    I think Ubuntu did that with their latest version. IIRC it shows up as a program, and can be uninstalled via the remove programs thing within windows.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tidder View Post
    I think Ubuntu did that with their latest version. IIRC it shows up as a program, and can be uninstalled via the remove programs thing within windows.
    I think you are correct, that sounds about right.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 2k1Toaster View Post
    I think that's a bit harsh...

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    It just means Kev is about to release something and wants everyone's attention. Not the first time he has started this thread.

    There's this one....
    http://www.mp3car.com/vbulletin/soft...frontends.html

    Then this one....
    http://www.mp3car.com/vbulletin/soft...ead-dying.html

    Here's another....
    http://www.mp3car.com/vbulletin/revi...mparision.html post 9

    Anyway........seems to work for him.
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