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    Sure, it's as easy as apt-get install and that works fine - I think what bug wants is a pre-cooked distro that already contains some packages that aren't in ubuntu-base [eg the fantastic obdgpslogger]

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    Quote Originally Posted by chunkyks View Post
    Sure, it's as easy as apt-get install and that works fine - I think what bug wants is a pre-cooked distro that already contains some packages that aren't in ubuntu-base [eg the fantastic obdgpslogger]

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    wouldn't it be easier to add a repo and install it that way? I'm guessing that the ubuntu installed in the plug isn't what you'd normally get. I'm assuming it's already slimmed down and to-the-point.

    I think cgalpin was interested in building a LinuxICE based distro for it. When he get's less busy, we can see where he is on that.
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    See, i think it is senseless to make it its own car distro. Definitely don't see it coming to wide-spread use in the real future. The only thing I can see, is an ultra-cheap sub-$300 setup with a sheeva plug with xorg on it and a usb screen:http://www.thinkgeek.com/computing/usb-gadgets/bfa3/

    Also, with the plug, you shouldn't ever really need to reinstall a distro. Like I said before, install the real debian arm distro found here: http://www.cyrius.com/debian/kirkwoo...ug/unpack.html

    You should be able to get it running in under an hour with the flash drive install. After that, FTDI is already installed, installing a few additional packages will allow you to compile FBD and whatnot. A simple apt-get will get you web server capabilities, and you'll be good to go. The reason the sheeva is such a pain in the a** to work with is its stock distro. After switching to debian, I was able to get all my stuff working in under 4 hours. Another 2 hours and I turned it into a gateway with a usb 3g stick as the web connection.
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    [QUOTE=PaulF] See, i think it is senseless to make it its own car distro. Definitely don't see it coming to wide-spread use in the real future. [QUOTE]

    I *am* in favour of a CarPC focused Linux distro. Or at least (to begin with) a set of easily installable programs and system settings that turn your whatever-distro-you-had into a CarPC-friendly install.

    The LinuxICE effort for example is important here. I mean... why not? It makes perfect sense to try to put everything you need in your car together running on top a well stablished distro like Ubuntu. After all, the in-car environment is a lot more "static" than the desktop; once you have it all working you don't want to mess with it as much as you do with your other computers, do you? And LinuxICE could provide something like that.

    Imagine we had a "magical stick" that you could plug into the system and have it all up and running in no time. It won't be here soon, but give it enough time and work and we'll have it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PaulF
    See, i think it is senseless to make it its own car distro. Definitely don't see it coming to wide-spread use in the real future.
    eurocarpc, You missed the most important word in that sentence. I said it is senseless to make IT (being the sheevaPlug) its own car pc distro. I'm all for a car pc distro but not so much a sheevaplug car distro.
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    So, I see what you all mean about a special distro being too much trouble. I'm trying mainly to solve my FTDI problem. For that, I will try a reflash of the Sheeva with Debian for the ARM as PaulF has suggested. Once that is done, I can easily install the other programs.

    I suspect that Debian has far more stuff on it that I had to install on the Sheeva OS, so that alone may fix my issue.

    FWIW - I built the cross compiler on OS X but got all the way down to compiling the libraries and got some type of error that I couldn't really grasp. Rather than run that down here, I'm going to try what PaulF suggested first. Since I haven't flashed my OS before, I'm going to have to do it no matter what. I've connected with the JTAG interface in the past just to see if I could and that worked, so I'll follow the instructions on plugcomputing.org to flash it and report back later.
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    Awesome. I really am interested in hearing how this goes - I have yet to flash my plug, but I know I'm going to need to pretty soon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PaulF View Post
    eurocarpc, You missed the most important word in that sentence. I said it is senseless to make IT (being the sheevaPlug) its own car pc distro. I'm all for a car pc distro but not so much a sheevaplug car distro.
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    What might be really great would just be if linuxICE had a debian/ubuntu repository [and/or RPM repos, etc, etc]. Then you can just add that to apt sources.list and "sudo apt-get install linuxice", where "linuxice" is a virtual package containing everything you want on the subject.

    This gracefully handles the multiple-architecture problem [especially if you provide source packages, or have enough build VMs to build on every architecture desired]. Now just to find someone with the time and resources to set up such a beast.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chunkyks View Post
    What might be really great would just be if linuxICE had a debian/ubuntu repository [and/or RPM repos, etc, etc]. Then you can just add that to apt sources.list and "sudo apt-get install linuxice", where "linuxice" is a virtual package containing everything you want on the subject.

    This gracefully handles the multiple-architecture problem [especially if you provide source packages, or have enough build VMs to build on every architecture desired]. Now just to find someone with the time and resources to set up such a beast.

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    With things like this in mind, I've set up a few metapackages that do this: "linuxice" will install "linuxice-desktop" and "linuxice-standard". The desktop stuff will install X11, nghost, and all the graphical stuff. Standard just installs the non-gui items like fbd, wifiproximity, etc.

    The current LinuxICE2 alpha was created with the simple 'apt-get intstall linuxice' command. After that difficult command was typed in, I built the iso and surprise, it worked! Of course, the difficult part is always building the tools that bootstraps the image, builds the squashfs, etc, etc. And packaging up stuff...

    I just need to setup a VM to crosscompile the packages and push them out to the repo. I guess it doesn't help that the packaging tools for fbd and such are hacks... I'll have to do it right (TM) and use the real packaging tools... I'm getting the hang of it, so that shouldn't be a problem.

    I personally think that a car pc distro would be a cool idea. But I agree with paulIF and everyone else that a fork just for the sheeva would be overkill. However an ARM repo with the OpenICE stuff in it would be not only useful here, but to anyone wanting to build a beagleboard or gumstix system using arm.
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