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    with Software Suspend 2 it is pretty quick

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheLlama View Post
    with Software Suspend 2 it is pretty quick
    I think that's one of those things were YMMV. My boot time isn't too bad, but resuming isn't much faster. Getting Suspend2 to install and work was a pain and it maybe shaved a second or two off the suspend that that the distro installed by default.

    I tried disabling pretty much all the services I could (including networking) and it didn't make really dent it one way or another.

    Probably has to do with the particulars of my hardware and software though. When I had XP though on the same setup (the laptop came with it), it only took something like 5 seconds, as opposed to 30-40 now.

    I'll probably have to bite the bullet and write my own init scripts one of these days to parallize it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shotgunefx View Post
    I think that's one of those things were YMMV. My boot time isn't too bad, but resuming isn't much faster. Getting Suspend2 to install and work was a pain and it maybe shaved a second or two off the suspend that that the distro installed by default.

    I tried disabling pretty much all the services I could (including networking) and it didn't make really dent it one way or another.

    Probably has to do with the particulars of my hardware and software though. When I had XP though on the same setup (the laptop came with it), it only took something like 5 seconds, as opposed to 30-40 now.

    I'll probably have to bite the bullet and write my own init scripts one of these days to parallize it.
    If you use Gentoo you can open /etc/conf.d/rc.conf
    and set RC_PARALLEL_STARTUP="YES"

    You may be able to check how the Gentoo RC scripts handle parallel booting. I know that each service has a list of dependancies so that everything is still booted in order, but parallelized when possible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheLlama View Post
    If you use Gentoo you can open /etc/conf.d/rc.conf
    and set RC_PARALLEL_STARTUP="YES"

    You may be able to check how the Gentoo RC scripts handle parallel booting. I know that each service has a list of dependancies so that everything is still booted in order, but parallelized when possible.
    Running Debian Etch at the moment. One problem with Debian is the packages are usually a ways behind (which is good for stability, but alas).

    Also, it seems whenever I upgrade anything important, it causes major issues, which isn't too suprising considering it's a testing distro.

    Maybe I'll have to give Gentoo a whirl.

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    I think there are 2 problems in Linux. Navi and good frontend. Windows frontends are yet more nice.
    All other things are not a problem in linux.

    Quote Originally Posted by shotgunefx View Post
    Probably has to do with the particulars of my hardware and software though. When I had XP though on the same setup (the laptop came with it), it only took something like 5 seconds, as opposed to 30-40 now.
    Maybe you could try to suspend into memory but not into hard disk. It takes about 2 seconds to wake up on my notebook. See PowerdownMethod in /etc/hibernate/suspend2.conf

    Parallel starting in Gentoo doesn't help too much.

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    .Net will not guarantee portability of such apps to linux, mainly because of not unified environments (for audio, graphics, etc.). With windows it's easy, there's just one of each environments, backward compatible, easy to use. That's why I would say instead of using .net, it's better to concentrate on C++, qt, vxwidgets, alsa, cairo, etc. This way you make sure your app will work on most linux systems.
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    Using C++ QT, Fmod, etc.. you can write a cross platform app... I think thats a better solution than trying to make something based on .Net cross platform.

    -Chris

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    Though I'm not a hardcore software developer, it stands to reason that if you are going to build something up from scratch it should be more optimised and performant then anything that has just been jury-ridded to fit the job.
    My idea of (ab)using Mono was in order to profit from the time and effort other people already put in their (.Net) applications and the option to get a consistant look on both plaforms. Would be nice if on would be able to just tap into the RR skins and run that on "linRR".
    So the main idea here was to cut down on analysis and development time, and not necessary to attempt to make the best of the best that might be outdated by the time it is done :P

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    Whilst I use Linux everyday in my work for webservers etc, I've always found it too fiddly to get things working, like graphics drivers etc. I've tried a few times but it just didn't do it for me! Call me lazy if you like!

    Anyway, personal preferences aside, I'm currently developing a front end in Java and it's intended to cater for all OS's. And since Java lacks media capabilities, I'm using VLC with JVLC hooks, and Flash is used for the presentation layer.

    In a very quick overview, the framework I built allows plugins to be developed in Java, and their data objects are transmitted down the wire to Flash. Any graphics are handled as AlwaysOnTop windows that sit on top of Flash.

    I know how to make GPS routing software and will be embarking on this soon, but first I'd like to integrate (on windows) some 3rd party software, like freedrive/iguidance, at least to get the ball rolling.

    Since I'm not so experienced with Linux, my testing is currently on Windows only. I know what needs to be done to get this working on Linux also, but I need help in testing this. If anyone's interested, and would like to help by trying it, then reporting back errors etc, then have a look at the project homepage. The Velocity Info thread can do with an update, but it's mostly accurate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by strandtc View Post
    Using C++ QT, Fmod, etc.. you can write a cross platform app... I think thats a better solution than trying to make something based on .Net cross platform.

    -Chris
    Correct. C++/QT is a better choice. The only reason I would consider .Net is to make portable code that doesn't need to be cross-compiled. And of course, there is java for that.

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