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    With the whole front end thing, if more people would make them in java then it would be only a small problem to get them to work in linux.
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    not really, most java apps don't run on my Linux/PPC since the most recent version is 1.4.2 and a lot of apps need 1.5...

    perl/python/ruby (or any other scripting language) are a lot easier to port, maybe even C# as long as you're using the mono-supported classes

    ..it's not really that the language the frontend is coded with is the issue but people don't release their sources and if, the licence might still be an issue..

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    Quote Originally Posted by blk View Post
    not really, most java apps don't run on my Linux/PPC since the most recent version is 1.4.2 and a lot of apps need 1.5...

    perl/python/ruby (or any other scripting language) are a lot easier to port, maybe even C# as long as you're using the mono-supported classes

    ..it's not really that the language the frontend is coded with is the issue but people don't release their sources and if, the licence might still be an issue..
    That's the route I'm going. Perl using SDL, mainly because I wanted lower level control over rendering. Though you could use wxPerl Win32::GUI or Perl/TK as well. I'm sure there are some other bindings that would be handy as well.

    Maybe even modding Mozilla would be a good start. It already does many of the things you'd want and supports plugins.

    Though I'd imagine a lot of it has to do with the tools available for MS stuff.

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    sdl is all right, it'll give you the possibility of adding some eye-candy, once the functionality is there
    since sdl itself isn't written in perl you won't really notice the performance impact of perl.

    is there a repisitory i could check out the code? (are you planning on releasing the code at all?) i'm sure there'd be other interested people, too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blk View Post
    sdl is all right, it'll give you the possibility of adding some eye-candy, once the functionality is there
    since sdl itself isn't written in perl you won't really notice the performance impact of perl.

    is there a repisitory i could check out the code? (are you planning on releasing the code at all?) i'm sure there'd be other interested people, too.
    Currently there is not, I'm in the middle of refactoring at the moment. Parts will probably be put out as packages, on the whole, I'm not sure if (and when ) it's done, I'll put out the whole source. I suppose it depends on how dependant it is on my setup in the end.

    SDL is a bit of a pain for it's lack of widgets (and on the Perl side, the 2 seperate branches 1.2/2)

    A bit of how I've approached it so far.

    The graphics are all done in an old version of fireworks I have (2). Anything that's not background (or a text background) is generated as an animated gif. They are named in such a way that it nows what variable or function to relate it to and the name also includes data to explain how the graphic is to be intepreted. The type (boolean,range,etc) and whether the animation is cycled, the range values. etc.

    As an example,a boolean type,

    When the variable it's associated with becomes true, the animation manager will run through the frames from low to high. If it's "cycled", it will keep doing this over and over while it's true (like the "warning" signal on my dash or the directionals), otherwise it pegs at the highest frame (like most of the dummy lights).

    When it becomes false, it will just run back down to frame 0.

    The reason I'm encoding it this way is that you could open up the png file, edit it and drop the changed files back in and change the speedo from a text based one, to a bargraph type, or hang both off of the same variable and have both.

    One small sample of code that is online is this code I wrote after SDL::Console went bye-bye. In the musicplayer (Auto-DAC), I use a slightly modified version to generate the playlist that can highlight entries.

    I'm debating whether I should just do some groundwork and make some packages to support general widgets in SDL, of course, the problem as always is time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by afterdigital View Post
    hoover damn!!!! that sounds pretty promising for linux to be able to install applications directly onto linux (or did i misread that)!!

    in the meantime XP will have to do :sigh:
    You can install application directly onto linux. You have been able to for years now . .NET apps on the other hand...

    Quote Originally Posted by kev000 View Post
    That makes one ugly front-end. yes I suppose you could just arrange everything around to simulate a front-end but that could become problematic because you run into the fundamental problem of: "Linux wasn't created to be used in a car." Neither was windows for that matter so hence the idea spawned: "Let's write a front-end to make it easier for people to use Linux/windows apps in a car." and "lets tie everything together in one simple gui interface."

    I'm hoping/wishing that google earth for linux will be able to be usable without the internet. That could solve the GPS app problem.
    Don't forget that the applications do not have to have window decorations. If done correctly, you could quilt together some apps pretty fluidly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheLlama View Post
    You can install application directly onto linux. You have been able to for years now . .NET apps on the other hand...


    Don't forget that the applications do not have to have window decorations. If done correctly, you could quilt together some apps pretty fluidly.
    One of the nice suprises I found out about X (or at least KDE, but I'd imagine Gnome).

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    Quote Originally Posted by blk View Post
    gpsdrive is a "navigation" software (currently it only supports raster maps) the mid-/long term support although is clearly to include OpenStreetMap vector data. Some support is already in the codebase (CVS repo). Gpsdrive has speech output via festival.
    On Linux, GPSDrive is the way forward. The future looks very bright and it is currently seeing _a_lot_ of active development.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kev000 View Post
    I'm hoping/wishing that google earth for linux will be able to be usable without the internet. That could solve the GPS app problem.
    GPSDrive interfaces to Google Earth and is able to download the images for later "playback". IIRC there is a perl script in the contrib directory for retrieving the files from Google.

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    Quote Originally Posted by reece146 View Post
    On Linux, GPSDrive is the way forward. The future looks very bright and it is currently seeing _a_lot_ of active development.
    I imagine the big holdback is waiting for hardware drivers for all the devices out there.

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