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    Android is bloated? Don't think I've heard that. Not a lot of Linux based distro's out there that are 100mb's or smaller even that were designed to work with low power devices.

    One thing you should realize though is that none of these systems are going to work for what you want to do right away. They take a lot of tweaking to get them completely working with the hardware. One of the big things that will take a bit of time is likely HD video and what not. Generally the first place you'll see it working though is in a standard Linux desktop environment. It certainly would be nice if someone could design a front end or even a version of Centrafuse or the likes that would run on these low power devices.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hdale85 View Post
    Android is bloated? Don't think I've heard that. Not a lot of Linux based distro's out there that are 100mb's or smaller even that were designed to work with low power devices.

    One thing you should realize though is that none of these systems are going to work for what you want to do right away. They take a lot of tweaking to get them completely working with the hardware. One of the big things that will take a bit of time is likely HD video and what not. Generally the first place you'll see it working though is in a standard Linux desktop environment. It certainly would be nice if someone could design a front end or even a version of Centrafuse or the likes that would run on these low power devices.
    Well I plan to stick 8GB SD card with the setup, so that isnt that big of a deal. My understanding is that RasPi will be selling distros that work with the units. As far as hardware, only thing that will be connected is a USB hub, touchscreen and keyboard. Nothing more, nothing less. HD video is already proven to work on the RasPi unless your talking bout something else.
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    Yes it works in the specific software and setup they have in that one video. But that doesn't mean it's going to work that flawlessly inside any normal linux distribution with all video players. There is a lot of work that goes on in getting everything streamlined for specific hardware to work with all software especially when it comes to hardware video acceleration which is what the RaspberryPi uses. I don't think RasPi is going to sell distro's as it's supposed to be an education tool to teach kids about programming, at least I havent' seen anything of the sorts and Linux GPL says they would have to offer a free version. I'm not sure how all that works, my point is that it's not going to work with everything. They showed a video from CLI playing an HD trailer, they didn't show what player they used or any of that and it's not like windows where you get hardware acceleration working in the OS and it works with all video programs and such (granted this wasn't entirely true with windows either). So it takes some time is all I'm saying.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hdale85 View Post
    it's not like windows where you get hardware acceleration working in the OS and it works with all video programs and such
    Really? Granted, I've only messed with probably 5-6 different embedded boards, but generally once you get the drivers installed for the hardware acceleration, it just works for any application that you try to use. You are right, that it is going to take a lot of configuration, but only because that's the nature of Linux. So, if it's just going to have a touchscreen and keyboard, no USB audio, no radio devices, nothing else, it won't be too bad. Just install touch drivers, set up your video application to autostart and go.

    Of course, if you try to use a frontend, that's going to add a good bit of configuration for you
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    Well I haven't had that same experience. I've had plenty of issues with hardware video acceleration in applications when it was working just fine inside the OS. Maybe it's getting better? I haven't messed with any of the embedded boards just linux experience from an HTPC point of view.

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    Quote Originally Posted by malcom2073 View Post
    Really? Granted, I've only messed with probably 5-6 different embedded boards, but generally once you get the drivers installed for the hardware acceleration, it just works for any application that you try to use. You are right, that it is going to take a lot of configuration, but only because that's the nature of Linux. So, if it's just going to have a touchscreen and keyboard, no USB audio, no radio devices, nothing else, it won't be too bad. Just install touch drivers, set up your video application to autostart and go.

    Of course, if you try to use a frontend, that's going to add a good bit of configuration for you
    Any embedded solution is going to require a lot of configuration. I'd also add that acceleration support varies. Some drivers are optimized for specific instructions (like the openGL ES subset) that not all applications may take advantage of. But generally, mal is right.
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    I guess I am going to have to get it, and play with them. What size SD card should I get for the units? Also, can I set the cards as read only? I ask because I just want these units to shut off. They will be controlled by the main PC via a relay. Is that possible?
    Higher capacity SD (8gb+) cards seem to have an issue with the kernel right now. The RPi wiki has a list of tested cards. I don't think powering off your auxiliary carpcs in the back like that is a good idea, though I'm not really sure what your alternatives are.

    Here is the thing. I think the RP is good for personal light use. It can never be used as a full car pc. I do think though that it opens up a world of perfecting multi zone in a cheap manner. Does Archlinux have touchscreen support?
    I'm actually of the opinion it's better for a center console pc instead of multizone devices. You'd get way more functionality (and it'd be a million times easier to set up!) with an Android tablet as opposed the Pi and a custom setup.

    Touch screen support is distro agnostic -- it's a driver-related issue (in the kernel) which all distros typically share. I have a multi-touch capacitive tablet that works perfectly with Arch and Ubuntu. You need to research whether or not it'll support the specific touch screen you're gonna get.
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    Quote Originally Posted by preet View Post
    Higher capacity SD (8gb+) cards seem to have an issue with the kernel right now. The RPi wiki has a list of tested cards. I don't think powering off your auxiliary carpcs in the back like that is a good idea, though I'm not really sure what your alternatives are.


    I'm actually of the opinion it's better for a center console pc instead of multizone devices. You'd get way more functionality (and it'd be a million times easier to set up!) with an Android tablet as opposed the Pi and a custom setup.

    Touch screen support is distro agnostic -- it's a driver-related issue (in the kernel) which all distros typically share. I have a multi-touch capacitive tablet that works perfectly with Arch and Ubuntu. You need to research whether or not it'll support the specific touch screen you're gonna get.
    I'll read through the Wiki and adjust my purchases. I found the HDMI to VGA adapters for about 21.00 dollars om amazon. They are active power, but do to an external power source. Well i posted on the forums. I asked if I can have these devices read only, that way I can have the car pc shut these usnit off and on. They said it can be done. Oh course the convo over there turned into a questioning match as to why I dont have the main pc as a server and the raspi as the main units.

    Well my custom setup is already in the car and working flawlessly. I have 50+ devices running on it, and a tablet can not do what I want to do. The functionality is there. I just want the users to be able to switch over and enjoy their own environment.
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    Well....... hmm if it can run XBMC at 1080p, then maybe there is some hope that it could run an entire front end.......

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