I have never really looked into this but found this ... roadnav
I do agree though that turn-by-turn navigation is extremely limited on OSX but many of us already have a iphone and GoogleMaps are the place that we already turn to. (lolo, that was a pun wasn't it )
Another interesting solution ... have you been able to gather anybody from there to help?
@ outside application developers
Recruiting within mp3car is not really what I was thinking.
A "passive approach" has not worked so far so I am thinking that if we were to "actively approach" some of these outside open source groups who are still being some what active we might be able to get them on board and motivate them once again to push even further along.
I really do think that the community here needs to step back for a second and decide which way it wants to go. Stay a hobby or build some kind of foundation/consortium.
Obviously there benefits and draw backs to both sides.
But with a foundation such along the types of the linux foundation I think that we could start building energy that would draw in a larger and wider base of people to draw from.
@ money / time
With a foundation in place time could be spread out among groups/individuals to work on what they do best.
coders, designers, managers, marketers
I do realize that we are talking thousands of man hours here. Obviously, NOT just a few days.
With a game plan firmly in place (from what I've seen ICE and OM are doing really good here) we could take this to outside people for donations!
kickstarter allows you set up projects to ask for donations ($1~$10k). AND you keep full control of your project. There are even other sites that do the same.
Getting out and creating a buzz is really important!
I came across mp3car looking for a handsfree solution for my iphone. Alpine and Parrot were the obvious choices but after seeing what I saw on youtube I was hooked. I'm sure there are many others out there who come here along similar lines.
With a set plan and goals, outside resources supporting us, and a larger active user base this really could exciting fast!
I do understand that coders are artists! I, also, understand their mentality. But this is where things get fuzzy and difficult. It really takes time to create the momentum that draws in people. Drupal is an excellent example of this. Drupal has been around for ages and has even outlived phpnuke - postnuke. Both of the original nukes were developer driven but couldn't / didn't make the switch. Another cms example would be etomite. Great idea but limited to only be surpassed by modxcms which is a foundation driven albeit coder heavy system.
I do not want to take control away from the programmers but rather find a system that would allow them to work on what they do best - code and at the same time get non-coders into the fray by having them focus on documentation, marketing, design and what not.
@ FEs developers
Has there ever been some kind of informal get together to try to work together?
You all could talk about what you're doing and consider the possibility of joining forces