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    There's a difference between *****ing and having rational dialogue. If you know of something other than a "forum" for this, please let us all know.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sdashiki
    i do digital arts, if I had a pc, laugh at me then.

    i got a nice mac for doing my digital media bidding and i dont play games too much sooooo why do i need a winbloze?
    I'm a graphic artist as well... there's not much of a valid argument to buy mac for graphic art anymore. It used to be companies like Aldus (now Adobe) who pioneered some of the 2nd gen commercially available graphic art programs only made software for the Mac, so graphic artists (especially illustrators) bought mac because of that... that isn't a problem anymore as software is readily available on both platforms. For the longest time, colleges would buy macs because they were considered "graphical PCs" - and since students would learn on these, they would turn into Mac users. Basically, there is no basis for that argument in today's market. I just had to chime in since this is a common misconception.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MDLarson
    DocNupe, you treat this issue like it's your God-given right to have a good GPS program on the Mac. It's getting tiresome.

    Here's some advice: create your own company and make your own superior Mac GPS program.
    I think it's a valid concern... if you pay extra for a computer platform, you should expect to at the very least receive equal retun on inverstment to that of a cheaper platform, hopefully more. Otherwise, what are you paying extra for? Mac users end up having to pay for software more often than PC users because of piracy issues on the PC, and because sales are less on the Mac, the software could possibly cost more than that on a PC. Would you like to buy a piece of software and find out it is crap? Not me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 99bravada
    I think it's a valid concern... if you pay extra for a computer platform, you should expect to at the very least receive equal retun on inverstment to that of a cheaper platform, hopefully more. Otherwise, what are you paying extra for? Mac users end up having to pay for software more often than PC users because of piracy issues on the PC, and because sales are less on the Mac, the software could possibly cost more than that on a PC. Would you like to buy a piece of software and find out it is crap? Not me.
    I think it's a valid concern too, but DocNupe appeared to be demanding it, indeed questioning Steve Jobs' intelligence level on the issue. That goes a little far, I'd say.

    Regarding the rest of your post, I think you're largely on target, but you leave out one huge factor in many Mac users' minds: emotion. Case in point: I talked to a QuickBooks person on the phone a few months back and we were talking about the Mac. She was telling us how their trainer brought them into a Mac training lab to gain more knowledge about the Mac and their Mac version of the QuickBooks software. One thing that she was told by the trainer is that "You can't just tell a Mac user to switch to PC if QuickBooks whatever is not available for Mac."

    If everybody thought-through buying decisions based on return-on-investment, the Mac platform might very well be extinct. And of course, there are many reasons why one might consider a Mac superior to a Windows PC even without getting into software applications and their function. One of those factors is truly being "different".

    I think I'm rambling, but hopefully you understand my point.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pattingtonjbear
    Ipods rule, but mac still sucks ahaha.
    sorry dood.
    I don't agree with you. I am a PC guy, but mac's are much better for audio/video production. I have owned only one mac and I don't beleive I would ever buy one, to be honest, but not because they "suck", just because I like the flexability of PC's.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MDLarson
    I think it's a valid concern too, but DocNupe appeared to be demanding it, indeed questioning Steve Jobs' intelligence level on the issue. That goes a little far, I'd say.

    I think your posts are becoming a little tiresome. I would say if you don't have anything constructive to post on this thread you should not post. Demanding it, I can demand anything want, sorry to burst your bubble, it is my money that I spend. Does that mean i will get it, probably not. But like another poster said, where else to bioch about something other than a public forum. Questioning his intelligence? I think not my friend. Maybe his strategy, yes i can do that can't I? There are only 3 people I look up to in this world and Steve Jobs is one of them. Have you ever read his book? I was stating that Bungie ID software ported PC GAMES to the Macintosh format for Steve Jobs so he could sell Imacs. He paid them to do several games that were popular on PC at the time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ATXaccord05
    mac's are much better for audio/video production.
    I'm sorry but I have to disagree with you... I work for an audio/video production house and we used to used to have a Mac video editing station with Media 100 hardware/software. We now use a standard PC with Windows XP Pro and GeForce FX card and are getting much better results and can play back in real-time if we playback with Microsoft DV codec (read: don't have to render video in Premiere unless you use transitions/effects, etc.)... it's all about the hardware and software, really... If you have a great platform, hopefully you will have good support from 3rd party hardware and software vendors.

    Our company still uses a G4 for audio recording... (We have a 24-bit MOTU hardware rack and card) - again, all about the hardware and software available for your platform/OS for most people, the price you have to pay for what you get in return.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MDLarson
    If everybody thought-through buying decisions based on return-on-investment, the Mac platform might very well be extinct
    Not neccessarily...Return on investment could be very different for each person... in this case it doesn't have to be monetary, but it is a quantitative measurement of something, for instance, happiness, productivity, whatever.

    For what I invest, what to I get in return? For instance... "I am 92.6% happy with my Mac, but I am an ASP programmer and I wish I could run an ASP server on it... I guess I'll have to buy a PC with Windows."

    Pulling this out of my arse, but you get the idea...

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    Just a thought guys but there isn't a *decent* well integrated, touchscreen friendly GPS software (not not even destinator as the software isn't official) on the PC yet for in-car navigation so all this *****ing about wanting on a Mac seems a bit early, seeing as you haven't even got full-featured equivalents of centrafuse/frodoplayer/roadrunner yet.

    Perhaps you ought to focus your attention on those first, as it's going to be a more successful route. Unless one of you wants to start your own Carputer Navigation company and get investment for decent maps... In which case go ahead I think the whole Car PC community would be behind you, x86 or Mac.
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    I have just completed the Minis final configuration and I must tell you the Co-Pilot running in a Win2K virtual machine is the cats meow. Works like a champ, only downside is the VPC requires you to manually select your USB devices you want Win2k to see which kind of slows down the startup a bit but I will figure out a way around this

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    Quote Originally Posted by DocNupe
    OMFG, you can get GPS navigation on a Palm os. You can get PGS navigation on a PPC (pocketPC for us mac users), and Linux and Windows. But for the life of me, why has iguidence or other popular GPS guidence software not been ported to Macintosh. Please dont give me this Route^^ crap as that software sucks. To me this is completely ridicuolus and an insult to mac users everywhere. Whith the release of the mac Mini, the perfect carPC, you would think someone at Apple would have the forsight to have this software package ported to the OS X platform, escpecially with the new tiger release and launch Mac Mini into the car community. If not I say DAMN, give me a fricken Job at Apple and pay me $500,0000 a year, so I can bring this up at meetings, I mean WTF?
    Ummmmn mac min perfect size for cars, perfect Dashboard, and perfect Itunes and Bluetooth integration, hey why not make a navigation program, even make it 3D, what an idea. Do you think we can make the mac mini the most popular PC on the market?????

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