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    Hi JSD303,

    I am very interested in your install as I am pretty much trying to do your exact install in the same car. My install will begin in about 2 weeks, because I am waiting until the new Mac mini with Intel Yonah is released on January 9th.

    Where are you planning on installing the Mac mini. I was thinking of installing it under the drivers seat, but the glove box should work as well. Do you have the Boston sound system or standard, are you leaving it or replacing it with upgraded speakers? How are you planning on installing the monitor? I purchased a new dashboard piece with NAV cutout from JustforJeeps.com and am planning on mounting the Xenarc headrest shroud behind it to keep the monitor in place and look decent. My installer doesn't do any fab work so I think it's the best I can do. From the equipment in your setup, it seems like you are utilizing a HU and then going out to the speakers. Are you doing this to get surround sound or what is the purpose of doing that rather than just going straight into the amp?

    Alright, I think that's enough questions for now, I hope I haven't bombarded you. Just really interested to hear what you are doing and how you are accomplishing it. Thanks for your input and knowledge.

    Best Regards,
    Adam

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    Hi Adam -

    I'm installing in the glove box - I wanted access to the computer's DVD slot (either by reaching over or having the passenger handle it). My jeep has the standard speakers - I'm replacing them all with Focal speakers, and JLAudio 10w3 subs in the trunk. The guy I'm working with is doing the sub boxes in vinyl to make them look like the current factory leather. He's also doing the dash fab work (glove mod to hold the Mini but still give me access and removal - mounting the Hubs (usb/firewire hub under dash but not visible and the small Kensington usb hub in that little slot at the bottom of our dash console) - and he's redoing the dash to make the screen look like it belongs - I got the shroud, but I think he's got other ideas lol). I'm hoping the external Edirol usb audio interface will give me better sound than the built-in audio out of the Mini. I can either do a cable straigh out of that built-in port to RCA (have monster cable) or use the USB Edirol and use its RCA outs to the Amps (JLAudio 500/1 for subs and JLAudio 300/4 for Focals).

    I also found tonight that my installers carry Optima batteries, so I'm going to go ahead and get a Red Top under the hood and a Yellow Top built into the back area near the subs box - both batteries are built for slow drain, so hoping that helps with some of the usb-powered hub issues that I'm anticipating while the Mini sleeps. At least it will buy me time while I look for a different hub - or don't if it handles the drain well or Mike from Carnetix figures out how to make me a USB cable that won't supply power - hehe. I'm powering the Mini with the Carnetix P1900 (+18 to Mac, +12 to Screen, +5 to Hub).

    My install starts tomorrow and will go through Wednesday - I sure hope they can get it done by Wednesday night. I'll take pictures tomorrow morning before they get started, and I have permission to stop by and take some pictures during the process. Of course, I'll also have pics of the finished product when all is said and done.

    Hope that helps and feel free to ask any other questions or make any comments or suggestions you have! I'll be really excited to see and hear about your ideas and experience.

    John

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    Hi John,

    I just finished ordering all the equipment, except the main piece of course, the Mac, and decided on a Kicker SX700.4 amp for the stock Boston's (will probably replace the speakers after hearing them) and a Kicker KX1200.1 for my dualie 10"L5s that will be hooked in parallel so I get 1Ohm. I'm replacing the current battery with a Yellow Top and ordered a 5 Farad Cap to help with power issues. I'm hoping not to have to replace the stock 160 amp alternator.

    I'm anxious to see your photos! Your install started today, right? How's it going? Any areas needing extra work or is it going smoothly? Let me know what you find on the external sound card, any better than straight out? Looking forward to your update and any pointers.

    Best Regards,
    Adam

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    Things are going well... got the Edirol UA-1EX sound interface today and ran it over to the installers (they hadn't hooked up the power supply yet) so its late arrival worked out okay... Looks like they'll have it until tomorrow. It's a mess now - all apart and cables and equipment and dust. I can see it shaping up though, and I think it's going to be nice. I've been by a few times to take pics along the way... I have a feeling we might get to the computer tonight (gotta get the USB sound interface set as the out for sound, but I don't think the installer really knows Macs). Excited that it's coming along. He worked out a nice way of mounting the Mini from the top left corner of the glove(secured to the metal above). The Mini just slides into it (snugly). The box he's building for the back is awesome looking so far (wood frame which will be covered in interior-matching vinyl). The box fits nicely behind the trap door for slush in the back of the Jeep - so that's still usable. To make the box more narrow the speakers fire backwards towards the back of the vehicle (was going to do downfiring but they take up too much room).

    Probably will head back there later tonight to see how the thing is coming... I'm hoping that they get all the cables correct to the P1900!! I labeled everything (every usb cable, every port, every AC adapter, everything)... lol Masking tape on everything... gave them tons of documentation.

    And if anyone has good ideas for names, please jump in.. lol We did a brainstorm and had iJeep, Jeepintosh (outlawed due to pioneer Pathintosh), MacJeep, MacinJeep and a bunch of other ideas. It could be cool or just lame enough to be funny. Have at it...

    John

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    Well, I went by last night and I must say I'm very impressed with the way things are starting to come together! BTW a word about the audio installer (John) - his girlfriend has a G4 so he has some familiarity with Macs after all. Guess I should keep quiet til I know what I'm talking about.. lol When I went by last night he was finishing up the P1900 and was hoping to have the Mac setup for some testing. Today they'll be dropping the woofers into the new box and setting the amps up and putting the final touches on the alarm (remote start etc.). The alarm seems to be one of the tougher parts of the install (alarm) because of the one-wire technology used (inherited when Chrysler purchased Mercedes).

    The design guy (Elroy) is amazing. The box he's made to hold the Amps, Woofers, Battery etc is gorgeous!! The innovative glove design to hold the Mac securely, yet allow me access to the DVD drive and the ability to pull it out, is great.. His dash work for the screen looks beautiful, too.

    I'll be heading by today at lunch to see how things are progressing and to take more pics. Hopefully, I can hear how it sounds at lunch! Should be done by tonight, so I'm completely excited to get my Jeep back with new system installed.

    I've registered a Flickr account, so when all is said and done I'll post pics to a website for viewing the process. Hopefully by this weekend we'll have some nice shots to kick around! Any other comments or suggestions are appreciated!

    John

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    Cost of Mac Mini: $699
    Xenarc Screen: $389
    Wonderful Carnetix P1900 and P5V: $125
    Cost of Amps and Speakers and Labor: Thousands of dollars
    Ability to use your Mac as your in-vehicle media center: Priceless

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    Install is complete.. looks great, sounds fantastic. I'm very happy with the way the system turned out. Tried a bunch of different apps (Front Row, iTunes, Route 66) and all seemed to work well. GPS functions well... RadioShark is okay (it's stuffed up in the dash - might have to move it to back of Jeep to see if I can get better reception or change the antenna).

    Possible issue: I think we might have a sleep issue, but will have to do more testing (I've only had it a couple hours). The installer was running into it - sometimes sleeping, sometimes shutting down. Mike from Carnetix has been very supportive and helpful throughout the process - thanks to him again! If there is a problem, I'm sure he and the installer will get to the bottom of it... I checked the settings of the Mac and they are correct (matching the documentation for sleep and power settings). Again, I'll have to play and see what I get.. I've had it sleep succefully a couple times and boot from scratch once.

    I definitely will need to hook up a knob like the PowerMate to control volume in iTunes... it's too difficult while driving to adjust via touchscreen. I must say that I played with the sound system for a bit and WOW. It sounds pretty sweet quiet or loud, rock or classical or hip-hop... I'm pleased with how that turned out.

    Overall, I am really jazzed. Can't wait to mess with it tomorrow and this weekend. I'll try to clean my Jeep up tomorrow and get some picks of it now that it's completed. I'll also try to get a website up so people can see the transition.

    John

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    There is no sleep issue in my setup!! Everything is working. If I leave the bluetooth mouse and keyboard on then they wake the Mac and the P1900 shuts it down. If I shut the Mouse and Keyboard down before I turn off the car then the Mac sleeps perfectly and wakes when I turn the car on. Everything works! I'm so stoked that it's all working now.

    I have tested several times now with the peripherals off and get the same result - sleeps works. I'll try to narrow it down as to which device is actually causing the Mac to wake up and get back to you.

    Hope that helps someone!

    John

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    I'm running an identical setup. My Bluetooth mouse was causing the Mac Mini to wake and then the P1900 would shut it down.
    Questions for Route 66: When the Mac Mini wakes, do you have to deactivate and then activate the GPS in order for it to track satellites? Can the map tracking be changed to orient up instead of North? Any chance of integrating the OS X address book?

    Thanks...

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