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    Quote Originally Posted by Bugbyte
    I sent it to Paul. It was a good doc.
    Thanks Bb.

    Fantastic work btw. The interface is looking fantastic. Especially the intuitive layout !

    btw. like your choice in music :-)
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    Quote Originally Posted by MINI4cathy
    A few details: The definitions would be in a text file, the format of which would be XML or possibly comma separated values (CSV). We don't plan to have a tool to help create the text file that holds the coating instructions. We'd provide an example and instructions.
    Yes, 'coating' is a great idea. XML would be best as this provides the most flexibility at this stage.

    I read coating as it would provide the capability to add/access external apps. So for example I could potentially add buttons that would access an app in say VPC, so one could have the harmony look instead of windows ? Or am I being too ambitous ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by raceer
    Yes, 'coating' is a great idea. XML would be best as this provides the most flexibility at this stage.

    I read coating as it would provide the capability to add/access external apps. So for example I could potentially add buttons that would access an app in say VPC, so one could have the harmony look instead of windows ? Or am I being too ambitous ?
    Your question mirrors our internal discussion -- should there be just one way to modify Harmony, that's very powerful because you could add buttons and attach and run your own Applescripts?

    Or should there also be a "lite" customization option, called a coat?

    A coat lets you place your own Harmony buttons that can behave slightly differently than those in the app, or display text. No Applescripting. It's limited so it doesn't permanently alter the underlying Harmony app for stability and safety reasons, and so non-developers can tweak Harmony with little effort and little learning.

    The powerful extension option will be there someday when the prefs files and definition files aren't constatntly evolving as they are now. But what if you're not a developer? Should you have to become one and have to learn how Harmony works, just to change the PAGE DOWN button so it issues a PLAY NEXT command instead?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MINI4cathy
    Or should there also be a "lite" customization option, called a coat?

    A coat lets you place your own Harmony buttons that can behave slightly differently than those in the app, or display text. No Applescripting. It's limited so it doesn't permanently alter the underlying Harmony app for stability and safety reasons, and so non-developers can tweak Harmony with little effort and little learning.
    Yes, this makes very good sense.

    I agree (I missed the subtle difference in your prev. post). Its also a good idea for the reasons you articulated, and it will initially provide the basic requirement for most folk to modify the look of the application for their needs.

    As you pointed out, this will also provide the opportunity to make the underlying app (core) 'bullet proof' prior to adding the other more advanced features.

    This will also enable you to re-evaluate the state of play once the initial release has been 'tested' in the wild.

    While we all want the app to be released yesterday, I trust you guys will not be pressured to release it until you think its ready.

    Again, keep up the fantastic work !
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    "XM" to Jirka

    Hello people,
    As you all know I'm working on integrating xmdirect into "Harmony". So far I'm able to grab a file handle to the device and write to it. However, I'm not getting any data back. I know my data reciever works due to the fact that when i disconnect I get a null returned. I think my port settings may be off. If anyone has an idea on what I'm doing wrong please "holla". Here is the port settings snippet:

    Code:
        tcgetattr(settingsFileHandle, &portOptions);
        cfsetispeed (&portOptions, B9600); //B19200 normally
    	
    	portOptions.c_iflag = 0;
    	
    	portOptions.c_oflag &= ~OPOST;
    	
    	portOptions.c_cflag |= CLOCAL;
    	portOptions.c_cflag &= ~CSIZE;
    	portOptions.c_cflag |= CS8;
    	portOptions.c_cflag &= ~PARENB;
    	portOptions.c_cflag &= ~MDMBUF;
    	portOptions.c_cflag &= ~CRTSCTS;
    	portOptions.c_cflag |= CREAD | HUPCL;
    	
    	portOptions.c_ispeed = portOptions.c_ospeed = B9600;
    	
    	portOptions.c_cc[VMIN] = 0;
    	portOptions.c_cc[VTIME] = 10; // 1 sec
    Note these are the same port settings I have in my HXM java application.
    Cheers
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    xm port settins fine

    ok, figured out why my data receiver was not working (user error, let's leave it at that). Now I just have to figure out how to decode the returned message.

    Euge-

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    Quote Originally Posted by bcohen5055
    Any hints as to what these features are??? This sounds verry interesting and also your Coating idea sounds great for basic personilization and in the long run might save you a bit of time/criticisim from the skin-obsessed people on the forum.
    Yes, here's a hint: Playlists of channels.

    You won't have to deal with the entire list of channels if you don't want to. You'll be able to have playlists of channels just like you have playlists of songs. Depending on who's driving the car and what passengers are along, or even different times, the channels you want listed will be different. It simplifies navigating among just the channels you want to check.

    There are a bunch of features that XM radios and software have that we'd like to be able to draw ideas from as well. As we get closer to releasing the XM function, we'll see how practical some of the other features are. We'll be able to talk about them at that time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MINI4cathy
    ....[snip, snip]....
    You'll be able to have playlists of channels just like you have playlists of songs. Depending on who's driving the car and what passengers are along, or even different times, the channels you want listed will be different. It simplifies navigating among just the channels you want to check.
    ....[snip,snip]....
    This is very neat....hmmmm

    For example my car has coded keys..so I get into the car, the seat, mirrors, etc is adjusted according to my memory settings..this is extended further by using bluetooth. So when my phone is in range its expected that my settings take preference, and runs some script/config that has the mac according to my pref. Now if only we could fix identifying 'bits' on kids we could automatically lock rear seat settings (vol) etc to some predetermined max, lock out dvd's, radio channels, etc, to the rear :-)
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    Update #13, April 26, 2006

    Good progress! I've taken the nib that Paul sent me and built it into the running app, ferreted out some of the issues with my implementation, restructured some of the code to be more modular and gotten Drive mode working properly!

    Harmony now launches in Normal mode, then begins playing. After a few seconds, it smoothly fades to Drive mode with the album artwork in the background. The buttons on Drive mode work properly and either advance to the next track, previous track, or pauses and restarts properly. If you touch anywhere on the album artwork (as long is it is to the right of the column of buttons on the window) it snaps back to normal mode instantly.

    No testing at all yet. I've probably broken all kinds of stuff that I'm not aware of, but still, the basics are THERE.
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    In a word, Awesome !!

    Also luv the crisp buttons ...

    Quick comment on a potential issue on the album art filling the entire screen. Given that the resolution of most of the album art may not be upto it (full screen at say 800x484), it may be an idea to perhaps provide an alternative format in addition to this and the standard background.

    This format may be a;
    smaller 'frame' on left hand side containing album art, and with a similar 'frame' of the song title, etc (which you already have) on the other side. So these will be side by side...or some other format thats appropriate. This way, you will handle the 'dodgy' resolution on most album art. Mine for example is mainly around 220x200.

    This is NOT a biggie, just a thought.
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