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    Quote Originally Posted by cejero View Post
    To answer/ask some questions:

    >>>Putting the Mac Mini output to the AVIC screen will result in a disappointing video display. The AVIC uses video input and the Mini uses the much crisper DVI or VGA.

    Would the video really be THAT bad runing RCA out of the Mac Mini into the Display? I couldn't see how it will be that bad, has anyone actually tried it with the Z1. It may be crappy on other screens but for sure would it be bad on the Z1?


    >>>#7 - The voice control (VC) is pretty good on the z1, after a lot of tweaking, but I've not had much luck with VC on my mini. I honestly didn't spend a great deal of time trying to resolve the problem on it but I did plug in a sound canceling mic and it still didn't work well while driving. If I were starting from scratch, which I'm about to do again, I wouldn't count on that as a serious way control my mini.

    Speakable Items in the Speech control panel of Mac OS X, hasn't really change since system 8.5 so try www.macspeech.com's iListen or iListen MX, those may work better.

    Yes the video will really be that bad when on the main screen, when using front row however it is near perfect, it just depends if it will only ever be an interface into music and films or if you are gonna access the net etc... If it is the latter, then forget it...!!!

    As for speech control, lovely idea, but in a car, with all the noise around you, you may have bigger problems than you expect, and i just could not be bothered to even think about it, speech i think is gonna be a few years away yet, at least until it can recognise at a decent rate with background noise....

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    Quote Originally Posted by www.workingcars View Post
    speech i think is gonna be a few years away yet, at least until it can recognise at a decent rate with background noise....
    Noise elimination can be done very efficiently on the hardware side, without special requirements for the recognition software itself. Parrot hands free kits are excellent and relatively cheap. Some of the microphones used for video conferencing and VoIP are also very good. OnStar sets in GM cars work fine too. So the technology is here.

    I guess the major factor is the weak demand after all. Most people simply do not really want to talk to their computers ;-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by cejero View Post
    >>>#1 - I have already run the video cable from my Z1 out when I ran the audio cables to plug my mac in. I'll be trying it out this weekend to see how it looks. I'm afraid bugbyte might be right about how poor it will look.

    Think tweaking video output on the Mac Mini would fix that? What are the other alternatives (another pioneer external box?)
    I have no idea (yet) but Iím going to try playing with the settings to see what I get. I donít know of any other external box that would clean that signal up, I just donít think weíll get the resolution needed to make this work with an RCA cable.


    Quote Originally Posted by cejero View Post
    >>>#7 - The voice control (VC) is pretty good on the z1, after a lot of tweaking, but I've not had much luck with VC on my mini. I honestly didn't spend a great deal of time trying to resolve the problem on it but I did plug in a sound canceling mic and it still didn't work well while driving. If I were starting from scratch, which I'm about to do again, I wouldn't count on that as a serious way control my mini.

    Speakable Items in the Speech control panel of Mac OS X, hasn't really change since system 8.5 so try www.macspeech.com's iListen or iListen MX, those may work better.
    Please try these applications on a laptop in your car before counting on them once you get your computer installed. It sounds like this is something youíll be counting on to make your system function without a touch screen, and it could prove to be a major disappointment. Trust me when I tell you that if you make to many concessions over functionality you will be frustrated and annoyed with your install, test as many things as possible before cutting into your car. A lot of the sound canceling mics on the market are headsets, are you willing to look like a telemarketer every time you get in your car? Has anyone tried a Bluetooth cell phone headset for this? I hate those things but they might be the best option for the telemarketer look, at least theyíll be wireless. Of course that would make the 5th Bluetooth device in my truckÖIím getting a tumor for sure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pepsibobby View Post
    http://www.digitalww.com/DWW-6500.htm

    not sure if it works yet with Mac, i have contacted them with no reply. This is what I am buying once i have the money. It is a 6.5inch VGA / TS with built in USB DVD player and radio
    There is a thread in the LCD forum about it and I posted the answer from Armen there.
    Yes it does. It uses the EGalax TS controller (same as Lilli and Xenarc)

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    I was asking why you wanted to put the Mini in there because it's going to run you around $800 to do it and that seems like a lot compared to what it will do for you, especially without touchscreen and a non-VGA display.

    On the other hand, I understand the "why not?" urge. If the cost isn't an issue, why not indeed?
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    cost isn't really an issue. The goal is i wouldn't be using the Mac as a Mac most of the time. If i need to do stuff with it, then I'll use my laptops to access the screen using ARD or the new iChat when 10.5 comes out.

    Honestly, I would see development of AMP as a replacement/front end of using Mac OS X natively, as it really wasn't designed with 7" screens in mind. For that I would suggest installing a Mac Plus they came with em..

    If you are using the WebKit in Safari inside AMP, then you could use the Command-+ option to make the text bigger by default.

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    So I was working on the monitor questions this weekend and ran into some problems that Iíve posted here Cable HELP for help. I also downloaded AMP and played with it a little. This is hands down the nicest front end Iíve seen for a mac carputer but as far as I can tell it wonít work with the powermate well. Basically you can use the up and down arrow keys in AMP and thatís it, the rest is touch screen, which is great for those of us with touch screens. Iím afraid this might be the end of this install wish list though, you have to have a touch screen. If Iím mistaken, please let me know what the keyboard shortcuts are, I would love to program them into my powermate too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by macalanche View Post
    So I was working on the monitor questions this weekend and ran into some problems that Iíve posted here Cable HELP for help. I also downloaded AMP and played with it a little. This is hands down the nicest front end Iíve seen for a mac carputer but as far as I can tell it wonít work with the powermate well. Basically you can use the up and down arrow keys in AMP and thatís it, the rest is touch screen, which is great for those of us with touch screens. Iím afraid this might be the end of this install wish list though, you have to have a touch screen. If Iím mistaken, please let me know what the keyboard shortcuts are, I would love to program them into my powermate too.
    How many keyboard shortcuts can you program into a powermate? I was thinking of getting the NewLooq navigator and making AMP function with that.. It seems to accept a lot more keypresses.

    Honestly, for the most part, if you want to run AMP, you'd be much better off with a touch-screen VGA monitor.
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    Quote Originally Posted by aychamo View Post
    How many keyboard shortcuts can you program into a powermate? I was thinking of getting the NewLooq navigator and making AMP function with that.. It seems to accept a lot more keypresses.

    Honestly, for the most part, if you want to run AMP, you'd be much better off with a touch-screen VGA monitor.
    I don't think it needs anymore keyboard shortcuts, I like it as is, just trying to help a fellow carputer user. Having a "Enter" or "Return" comand to function as the play/pause button would be nice for us powermate users, though I suspect we all will survive touching the screen

    The PowerMate will take six keyboard shortcuts. Keep it simple though, that's the beauty of what you've created, if you try to resolve every little nit from all of us it will end up being a pain to set up and use. The path you're on is perfect...THANK YOU

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