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    Quote Originally Posted by Jirka Jirout View Post
    The thing is pparently a Mac mini without the optical drive. And I bet it is running some edition of OS X, maybe even standard OS X with Front Row-like application in place of finder and some stuff removed. So adding most of these functions (e-mail, web, phone) is a matter of software update.
    It may be only a matter of putting the software on it, but they DIDN'T. Maybe they will later, but they haven't yet and they should have. I think the 'A' team may have been working on the iPhone instead.

    Not to mention that I think Apple is making a critical misstep by trying to tie your entire viewing experience into iTunes. I do not intend to purchase videos over the web until I can at least put them on DVD to save them -the same as the music I buy on the web. With music, I want to play it on many devices -in my car, on my iPod, on the occasional CD player, stream it to the stereo downstairs, whatever.

    Video, I want on my TV and on a backup DVD. That's it. Sure, it might be fun to carry it somewhere else on occasion but I don't need it. What I could use is some computer like functionality on my TV. Not just a video/audio/photo server but the other stuff. That's where I think they really missed the mark.

    The Apple TV value proposition says that I should manage my vids on my computer but any DVD's I already have can't be ripped unless I want to jimmy the DRM on them. Not hard to do, but rather more time consuming than simply ripping a CD. Then, if I buy them online I can only play them on a single program made by a single company? I can't take them with me on a DVD to show to my friends? What was supposed to be easier about this?

    Now, an Apple TV in a car....THAT'S what I call an interesting install. Think of all those people who want to output to two video screens using the Mini. They almost always want one in front for the driver, the other in the back for the passengers to watch videos/listen to music. For $299 and NO WIRES, you get instant back seat entertainment along with a wireless controller for the kiddies. Serve up the media from the Mini up front and BLAMMO! You have a pretty seriously cool system.

    Who knows? There may yet be an Apple TV in my future. But it still won't play DVD's. Sigh.
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    Why does the Apple TV have a USB port? Could it be that it is capable to connect with an iPod? Why else would they put a USB port? If i can connect an iPod to it, then Im getting one for the car. That means instant on and off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bugbyte View Post
    It may be only a matter of putting the software on it, but they DIDN'T. Maybe they will later, but they haven't yet and they should have
    I would appreciate that as well, but it will probably sell even without these functions. So from Apple's point of view it is only logical to keep these additional functions (and much more, I believe) in reserve.

    Now, an Apple TV in a car....THAT'S what I call an interesting install. Think of all those people who want to output to two video screens using the Mini.
    It may not be that easy - look at the rear side of the TV. On the left-hand end of that size to be more exact... It appears the TV is not using an external power brick and low DC voltage, but connects straight to the AC outlet (110/230V). If that is really so, we will have to use an inverter, that brings more problems with audio interference etc. Let's wait and see.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gmed View Post
    Why does the Apple TV have a USB port? Could it be that it is capable to connect with an iPod? Why else would they put a USB port?
    Just like Cisco with their new routers: "reserved for future use" :-)

    It could be an iPod, mass storage device, keyboard, gaming controller, TV tuner...

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    or a printer like the old ones? maybe...
    Cant code cause I dont know how, but give me the paint bucket and my eraser and have at you!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jirka Jirout View Post
    It may not be that easy - look at the rear side of the TV. On the left-hand end of that size to be more exact... It appears the TV is not using an external power brick and low DC voltage, but connects straight to the AC outlet (110/230V). If that is really so, we will have to use an inverter, that brings more problems with audio interference etc. Let's wait and see.
    Hmmm... Well, who knows? Maybe it would work okay even with an inverter. Of course, you can probably hack it and supply the power to the system directly but that's a bit of a riskier experiment.

    Okay, not to rant or monopolize this thread, but I guess I will just a little bit longer. Today I received an email from Tivo that Tivo to go now works on the Mac. That means any TV show I Tivo can be transferred to my Mac and placed into iTunes, my iPod or iPhone, or burned to DVD via my wireless network, which the Tivo is attached to.

    So Tivo has given me a device that sends video from my TV to my computer and Apple has a device that sends TV from my iTunes to my TV. Where's the love?!!
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    The Apple TV has a few constraints that will probably keep it out of the car. It does not have VGA out, only HDMI and component video, at 720p, so the video resolution won't be adjustable. It's transformer (power brick) is internal, so it would require a 110 AC inverter. The USB port is not accessible, nor are apps (like a front end) installable.

    In an RV, which would likely have an inverter and TVs, it's a great fit. It can be loaded up with videos, photos and music while it's parked out in the garage, wirelessly. Likewise in a minivan: get a 19" widescreen monitor, hang it between/behind the front seats and plug in an inverter. Funtime for kiddies on long trips.

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    Regarding the iPhone, it's about a widget away from being a nice in-car media system for the driver and passenger. That and a fresnel lens to magnify the view. The developer info for the iPhone will be real interesting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MINI4cathy View Post
    The Apple TV has a few constraints that will probably keep it out of the car. It does not have VGA out, only HDMI and component video, at 720p, so the video resolution won't be adjustable.
    That is not necessarily a show stopper. HDMI is basically a DVI + few "DRM wires". And HDMI to DVI adapter is explicitly listed between the accessories (TL952LL/A). So if we see DVI-equipped small LCDs soon, Apple TV might be usable with them.

    It's transformer (power brick) is internal, so it would require a 110 AC inverter.
    Yes, this is probably the worst issue :-(

    The USB port is not accessible, nor are apps (like a front end) installable.
    That is just a matter of time/effort/money. My LaCie 1TB Ethernet disk was also originally just a network disk running Win XP embedded, not a full Win 2k server it is now :-D

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    I agree that the AppleTV is way too tempting not to be cracked.

    The iPhone is apparently a closed environment as well, with only a subset of OS X technologies, so there may not be any 3rd-party software. There's no Java on it either.

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