Response from PowerLOC/HSTC!

**Laidback** · 01-25-2005, 06:15 PM

Originally Posted by Ninja Monkey

but not so good for a certain other person here.

Not really, he only told you how you could do it, he didn't distribute any cracked dll's!

**MatrixPC** · 01-26-2005, 04:33 PM

I don't think they will come out with a PC verson after Deloue pull the plug on Routis.

**stevieg** · 01-26-2005, 04:55 PM

Originally Posted by MatrixPC

I don't think they will come out with a PC verson after Deloue pull the plug on Routis.

We don't want a PC version we just want to use this PC version legally!

**NiN^_^NiN** · 01-27-2005, 03:48 AM

I think PowerLoc/HSTC should do this:

Release the SDK again but with the Map size limit removed and a activation file added.

They don't need to worry about updating the stuff or fixing anything as NM frontend basiclly fixes most of the stuff that the SDK doesn't do to well and also it uses the standard DLL they have so adding activtion for using maps and removing the Limit is all they would have to do for NM to let people download it legally

Also to get people to buy the maps for them they should COMBINE all usa maps into one map which should be enough for people to buy the maps for destinator as 1 combined map is what the Carpc people want (USA People anyway)

This way Powerloc will get money from the Carpc market without really doing much at all.

If they could sell the maps to us for a cheaper price without worring about software it would actually allow MP3Car members to buy from them.

Also if they work out some deal with Ziplock with maps then that would cut down piracy in the community

Just my thoughs

**Gobby** · 01-27-2005, 04:00 AM

I don't think Powerloc realise how big the MP3Car market will possibly grow within the next few years. IF they get their act together now, they could actually capture a large part of the market - even factory fitted units in say 12 months time. If I was the CEO of Powerloc I would be doing lal I could to capture this area of the market and would personally work with Ninja Monkey to resolve the issues and work with him to create a system for market - maybe they should think about creating a system which uses activation as above, license the Map Monkey software and pay royalties to Ninja Monkey everytime they sell a copy with the relevant maps.

**C4M** · 01-27-2005, 04:22 AM

It would be nice if PowerLOC were prepared to step forward in these forums and speak on their own behalf.

There are a number of hardware vendors here that have done quite well out of their association with these forums. There is no reason why software vendors (such as Hybrid) can't do the same.

C!

**yunusyu** · 01-27-2005, 05:07 AM

Originally Posted by stevieg

PoweLOC/HSTC - If you're reading this, and you probably are, this is aimed at you...

Please, powerloc don't be so short sighted about the Car PC community. If one of the members on this forum edited a distributable DLL he didn't do it to steal from your company. And it would be a fair statement to say that seeing as there isn't a PC version available you haven't lost anything by him doing that. You have only increased sales of the PPC version as we have had to buy that to use the software.

Just because your (Powerloc) previous versions were not successful perhaps you ought to have a little foresight. I bet your smartphone navigation software isn't an overnight bestseller because at the moment it's a small market. It's the same with the Car PCs

VIA, the leader in the market for Car PC components certainly thinks this year will be the year that Car PCs hit mainstream - as let's face it PDAs are a piece of junk in comparison but cost almost the same.

Check out VIA's display car at CES this year... http://www.thetechlounge.com/article..._pieros&page=4

Just think, at CeBit in March, Destinator 3 could be in it or another car... But you guys at PowerLOC just don't have the foresight to help our hobby become mainstream. If you're noticing the 'hacked' version of the DLL is popular then perhaps the proper version would be popular if you released it??? If there had been an PC activation EXE in the SDK so people could legally activate the software then we wouldn't be in this mess now would we!!!

LOOK... Car PC suppliers are stocking your software because it's good. http://linitx.com/index.php?cPath=88_92
Like with ANY software the MAJORITY of us (including the guy from spain if it's who I think it is) aren't trying to rip you off! We WANT you PowerLOC to be sucessful so you make more of the same...

What I propose to PowerLOC is they re-release the SDK as a special version that has an Activation.EXE to activate the software for use on the PC so no 'hacked DLL' is required, and make it available to registered users of the PPC software - I bet it would only take your developers a few hours to sort out.

That way you, powelok could support us and see what the market's like. Over the next year or so there WILL be more than 1000 possible users. That is fact. Over the last few months, 3 PC magazines have featured Car PCs. The latest issue of the top Car modding magazine 'Revs' said In Car Computing is going to be the next big thing. VIA are selling the Mini-ITX boards and aiming them partly at the Car PC market. There IS a market and it's getting BIGGER ALL THE TIME. Do you want our money or not?

Amen brother!
And we are working on it.

**Deepgear** · 01-27-2005, 06:57 AM

According to the mail from powerlok, they are only scared about someone who use Map Monkey with maps he found illegal on the Internet.....

So ==> If Ninjamonkey sells Destinator Maps like LinItx, powerloc has no problem with this projekt. There is a License on EVERY map, bought legal from Powerloc, its up to you what you are going to do with this maps.
If you like, you can make screenshots print them and put em between a supersize Burger, bought at Mc Donals.It may seem a bit crazy....but legal

I know, If Ninja gives us a good price for the maps, many of us are going to buy em.

**stevieg** · 01-27-2005, 07:29 AM

And the maps from Destinator are newer than you will get from anywhere else. It is worth the money

**Goose** · 01-27-2005, 07:50 AM

So what will happend wih MapMonkey? Is Ninja going to release a version whitch takes a 3MB and we have to buy a Destinator to get the dll?

Or how we are supost do get ninjas dll?

I got Newest Maps (buyed with medion PDA GPS) but I want MapMonkey and his dll.

Or is it something I understand wrong here?