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    Any chance you can translate those screenshots to english?
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    Quote Originally Posted by phat_bastard
    Any chance you can translate those screenshots to english?
    I have edited my post above and added the error file
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    Quote Originally Posted by thedog_israncid
    It's *extremely* slow, in fact. I have about 2500 mp3s, and between playing, and chanigng screens, there are very long loads times.
    Are you using a playlist file you created in some other app? If so you should use the database function to generate your list, that way M/E will use the database to it's full potential to speed things up.

    Quote Originally Posted by thedog_israncid
    The program I had done a while back did the same thing, with a database of the songs, and it could generate the database in mere seconds, and there were no slow load times.
    Why on earth aren't you still using that program, if you don't mind my asking? Your program reconciled the entire database in seconds right? Not just checked file counts against record counts, right? I guess we do have a lot to learn. Seriously, if you can make the database work better we'd love to have your input. Contact me offlist if you want to help.
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    Hey Phat

    I did in fact build my database vis-a-vis the database option. I should mention we are talking about 2,500 .mp3 files.

    My program I developed a while back did indeed dynamically build the playlist, it did so by recursive search of the subdirectories. It dynamically split the results into the necessary tree-structure layout. There was and is no need for a complicated database for storing filenames, etc.

    I quit developing my program when I entered med-school, no time to devote hours a day to that. I will admit that I too found myself spending more time making it look pretty than optimizing code. Mine was in Delphi so it did have a speed advantage over VB. Also, I never had a clue on how to make the text "large" like you guys have, so it never would have worked well in an in-car environment.

    Please note, my original post may have seemed a bit confrontational, and for that I apologize, but I maintain my complaints, as I was a bit disappointed after the long wait for 2.0

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    Quote Originally Posted by thedog_israncid
    My post was constructive criticism. Everyone always focuses on the cool factor without giving a thought to function. I understand it's free, and it's great that they are programming it, but that doesn't mean that I should bow down and worship these guys. And I'm not going to praise buggy software just because it's free.
    Thanks for your constructive criticism. We're not asking for your worship or your praise, not sure where you got that idea. We do this because we want to have a useable interface and want to share it with other enthusiasts. There's no way M/E can be everyone's holy grail, and we don't expect it to be. Releasing free software into the public vs. using an app that you wrote for yourself _by yourself_ encompasses two entirely different realms of fortitude. I think that's all those that rushed to defend M/E were trying to get through to you.

    I agree with linus, let's stick to the subject.
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    maybe this is a wmp prob - but I have used ME2.0 EXTENSIVELY and never had any hangs or speed issues... so it's not an inherented problem with ME - maybe it's your config or PC?

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    Quote Originally Posted by fluffy2097
    I've found ME 2.0 to be noticably slower then 1.7.7.f.

    It also uses WMP9, a player I have a personal bias against for the exact fact
    Again, if you want to help give us some details about your setup. Are you running win98, xp, 2k? What kind of lists do you play? What were you doing when you got froze in settings (I've experienced this also, but cannot reproduce it so it's tough to fix). If you're just wanting to bash what we've done then go fire up a new thread named something appropriate. We've tested 2.0 an order of magnitude more than any 1.X version, but there are things that we may never experience in a testing environment. Constructive criticism is constructive. Bashing is bashing. I want to read constructive criticism, it benefits everyone. I don't have time to read someone's bashing, it benefits no-one.
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    Sorry to all who wasted their time reading my posts. I'm a software developer for a living and we sell our software. I have no problem when people tell me what's wrong with my code because that is what I am being paid to do. But I get annoyed when users tell developers who donate their free time how to program. Once again I apologize, especially to thedog_israncid, because I let it go a little too far.
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    Not sure if this will help, but here goes...

    If I am correct, and please correct me if I'm wrong, ME 2.0 uses WMP as the internals for the DB. If this is correct...You might want to try this.

    I know it may be a pain but try going into WMP and updateing the media library there. Open WMP hit F3 select the DIR. where your music files are and select "new files only (fast)" and hit ok. The first time it runs it does take a few minutes but there after, when you add new files to your music DIR., it should only take a few seconds.

    I NEED TO STRESS THIS. I curently do not use any Ver. of ME. I recently got M$ Media Center 2004 and use it and if I didn't have it I would still be using ME. BUT M$ MC 2004 uses WMP for the DB as well and this is how it updates it's DB for MP3s. I think it should be more stream lined and quicker but I can deal with it for now. <--- was a comment toward M$ MC 2004 not ME.

    From what I have seen I think you guys are doing great for the time it has been worked on. I'm sure you will do our community good and continue working these issues out.

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    Now that I think about it...Still going off the assumption ME uses WMP for it's DB. After you set up the original DB, using the update feature I mentioned above, you can set up a DIRs. to monitor under tool>options> and then the Library Tab. Then when you add files it will put them in the DB automatically. Just 2 more cents I'm adding...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Defiler
    Not sure if this will help, but here goes...

    If I am correct, and please correct me if I'm wrong, ME 2.0 uses WMP as the internals for the DB. If this is correct...You might want to try this.
    Na, we're using an access database. WMP is enough of a PITA to deal with just playing music and handling visualizations; the only reason we decided to use it over winamp (winamp's visualizations caused us lots of problems). I wish people would give us some details as to WHAT OPERATING SYSTEM they're using, etc. We'd love to be able to fix any speed issues that may exist, but we're damned to find them if all anyone's gonna tell us is 'how much (they) hate how slow it is'.
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