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    Angry MSDXM.OCX - Why oh why don't you fix that NOW?!

    Yes, I know. It states in the FAQ that your setup installs a copy of MSDXM.OCX when it shouldn't and that it "should be fixed in the next version".

    First of all, and I'm sure you are aware of that, MSDXM.OCX is one of those files of which it is not allowed (by Microsoft) to redistribute. And there's a very good reason for it: because it can (and most likely will) mess up your system big time when you mix different versions of WMP components. And that's the reason why for the life of me I can't figure out why you allow any setup with this "mistake" to be distributed. Get that verson off the net, and fix it ASAP.

    I was one of those people unaware of this "bug" and happily installed MediaEngine on my Win98SE machine. Guess what? Besides the fact the setup crashed, all of the media programs I had on this machine stopped working because your setup installed an incompatible version of MSDXM.OCX. Now simply reinstalling MP 7.1 (or whatever version you previously had on your machine) does not solve the problem completely. You are a programmer, so you should know why.

    So here I am. I've spent two days trying to get my system back to the way it was before I tried installing MediaEngine. And I haven't succeeded entirely because all kinds of changes were made. And I'm ****ed as hell. Why? Like I said: because you distribute a version that can seriously mess up systems (and has in my case). And I know it's just a matter of minutes to correct this particular problem.

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    bit rude...

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    ...some will serve as an example to others...

    & I for one certainly appreciate your service as such. I'm smarter already.
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    PS.

    Thank you for your free software....
    ....Yes, I know it has a stupid name, those crazy Japanese!

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    2. You may use the Software on as many computers as you desire, and are encouraged to distribute the software in it's original form as you see fit. If you distribute the software it must retain all copyright notices. You must also reference and acknowledge the website http://mediaengine.org in all electronic and hard copy distributions of the software. You may not redistribute, encumber, sell, rent, lease, sublicense, or otherwise transfer rights to the Software for a financial gain other than to cover material costs of distribution.

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    hmmm...some people have trouble with the term "As Is"

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    Why is it that as soon as something is "free", developers can get away with anything? So just because it's free, it's ok to mess up people's system? So if I wrote a program and distribute that freely, and it accidently formats your harddisk, it's ok because it's free? Don't give me that crap. I distribute a lot of free software myself, but I make pretty damn sure it will not mess up people's machines. That's your responsibility as a developer. Wether your software is free or not.

    What you people don't seem to get is that it is not a small bug that is causing the program itself not to work. It's not a bug that might cause problems under certain rare conditions. If you install this on any earlier version than XP, it will mess up your system for sure. And the problem is, you might not notice it at once if you don't have other MultiMedia software running. But sooner or later you will get hit by it. And it takes a whopping 30 seconds for the developer to solve it - simply by taking it out of the distribution package.

    I'm sorry if you think I'm rude. I'm sorry if you think I should have kept my mouth shut. I'm very sorry if I have put my finger on a sore spot. But as a developer, I see no excuse for such a thing. We all hate it when we download something "free", and it has spyware for instance. We all hate it when we download something "free" and it contains a virus that destroys things on your computer. Fact is, this is a program of which the developer knows it contains a very serious bug and can (and does) cause all kinds of headaches for Win98 and WinMe users. Fact is that as a user, you are not made aware of this. Fact is, it's incredibly easy to solve. So in my book, that makes this program just as bad as any of the free software out there that contains spyware or a virus.

    Don't get me wrong. I applaud any effort of which the goal is to provide free software. Like I said, I distribute quite a bit of freeware myself. But knowingly distributing something that messes up people's machines is bad. Really, it is.

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    anyone else had this problem?

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    I used to run Media Engine on a 98SE setup with no problems that I remember..
    ....Yes, I know it has a stupid name, those crazy Japanese!

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    Thieir is a simpe solution to this problem

    1. Stop using the software !!!
    2. You are a developer so write your own software !!!

    These people are producing software FREE which yes does have some bugs or FEATURES as developers like to call them. They spend their own time working on this and then give it to us for NOTHING if you don't like what they produce it's simple DON'T USE IT then none of the problems will affect to you.

    Sit down for a week and try to start writing something to do the same thing or maybe even BETTER, see just how far you get, then maybe think again before slagging off other peoples work.

    Given the complexity of Media Engine i think and i expect most people will agree it is a great piece of software with very few real bugs.

    Thanks for reading my little input

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    Quote Originally Posted by OriginalNick2
    anyone else had this problem?
    Yep mine is flaky, but I am not *****ing about it, I wish I could use Mediaengine on my machine

    I tried my first setup using an old laptop and liked the way MediaEngine worked best (also tried MediaCar), that was running 2000Pro, but in the interest of speeding things up (It was taking about 4 minutes to boot/ load and play anything) I decided to format, do a clean Win98SE install, load my codecs, Direct-x and WMP9 updates, then MediaEngine and all my MP3's AVI's etc.

    I considered installing XP on the machine but I guess the boot up would be really slow again (like it was with 2000)

    Unfortunately ME hangs every time I try and start it on the "Loading Video.." bit and I get the msdxm.ocx error.

    I tried removing and re-installing WMP, that didn't work

    I tried uninstalling MediaEngine and it wouldn't, I tried re-installing ME and it wouldn't do that either, I deleted every file and registry key I could find relating to ME and Winamp, then tried re-installing ME, and it won't do that either, it presents messages relating to uninstalling, then simply finishes having done nothing.

    I now have MediaCar working, so I guess I will have to use that, but I don't like the way you can't browse files easily with it, and it autoatically starts playing movies when you click the div-x link.

    It's a shame ME doesn't work properly with 98se, because it has the best interface I have tried, but I will definitely try again when the next version comes out (or if I build a faster system for my car)

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