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    Quote Originally Posted by colin View Post
    Seriously, for the price difference of $65, are those features worth it? Sure, you can buy a $2000 60" LCD that has a brilliant picture, or you can spend an extra $1000 and get one with picture-in-picture and an alarm in the morning. Far off comparison, sure, but that one was only a 50% price increase, this is from $20 (and the satisfaction of doing it yourself) and $85.

    Guaranteed 500mA per port? Are you really going to use that? If so, YES. They are good up the 3A at 93% efficiency.

    Startup/shutdown? Add a relay onto your PSU and yes, thats an extra dollar.

    Survive crank? If crank goes less than 7v, then no. But wait, your computer power supply wont survive crank below 7v anyway! (I know it says 6v input, but thats at REALLY low power levels -- anything above 2A requires at least 7v -- same for the DC-DC converter in question).

    Hibernation? Sure, use the right USB hub. I mean, the power supply is only $10, you have $10 to get a decent 4-port USB hub. I'm POSITIVE there are some out there that survive hibernation (my cheap $0.99 eBay 7-port one does).

    I understand your point, but from a very electronics-oriented background, this is easily doable.
    it should be clear they arent marketing this to you if the features arent something you use. I understand that it can be done for far CHEAPER.. but its no different from people that can build there own PC for cheap versus people that buy computers.
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    There are some other people talking about USB hacking and cheaper hacked solutions over in this thread. I made a response in this post which might be relevant to some of your comments.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sonicxtacy02 View Post
    it should be clear they arent marketing this to you if the features arent something you use. I understand that it can be done for far CHEAPER.. but its no different from people that can build there own PC for cheap versus people that buy computers.
    If people who bought computers spent 3x as much as people who built them themselves it would be a fair argument-but thats clearly not the case.

    I may be a computer engineer - but its incredibly simple for the average person to replicate every feature but the startup and shutdown controller. I can further estimate from that circuit board pic I saw in another thread that mass produced these boards cost about $30-40 each...and they charge $85!! Please try telling me how thats anything short of taking advantage of people.

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    We thought there might be some value in putting this all together in one package. If you are on a budget, looking for a hobby, or trying to find a use for spare parts we certainly won't be angry if you want to build your own hack or even post a diagram and parts list about how to build your own for less money. Some people might like to focus on other parts of their install and have this part done quickly and reliably. The preassembled option is there, should it fit your needs, budget, and schedule.

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    Quote Originally Posted by justchat_1 View Post
    If people who bought computers spent 3x as much as people who built them themselves it would be a fair argument-but thats clearly not the case.

    I may be a computer engineer - but its incredibly simple for the average person to replicate every feature but the startup and shutdown controller. I can further estimate from that circuit board pic I saw in another thread that mass produced these boards cost about $30-40 each...and they charge $85!! Please try telling me how thats anything short of taking advantage of people.
    As much as I disagree with the price, its not taking advantage of people. It's offering convenience at a price. Some people are willing to pay that price, and that's how the company makes money. Some people (like us) are not willing to pay that price, and we are encouraged to "hack" together our own solutions. I mean, there are a lot of overhead costs: design, packaging, enclosure, testing, sales, evaluations, etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by justchat_1 View Post
    If people who bought computers spent 3x as much as people who built them themselves it would be a fair argument-but thats clearly not the case.

    I may be a computer engineer - but its incredibly simple for the average person to replicate every feature but the startup and shutdown controller. I can further estimate from that circuit board pic I saw in another thread that mass produced these boards cost about $30-40 each...and they charge $85!! Please try telling me how thats anything short of taking advantage of people.
    I dont see the point you're trying to make here. AGAIN, if the average person could build one of these the product would not exist. If you CAN build one, you are not average. Its a pretty basic concept that you pay more to have someone do something for you than you would if you handled it DIY right? No ones being taken advantage of because no one HAS to buy it right?
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    $85 for a USB hub??? Are you kidding me?

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    Seems like a lot of people are being ungrateful. I have used this thing for a long time now and it has been flawless. Works every single time, and a rabid chimpanzee could install it drunk (and have it work).

    Cases are not cheap, and to make something as polished as this requires a lot of engineering time and initial costs. The community has been asking for this ever since I can remember. If it was easy or something anyone could do, more people would have done it by now. Sure some techies have, but average person around here is more on the computer side than the electrical side.

    $85 is not a bad price for something like this.
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    question...if i use this..i can essential use a 15foot usb cable from my trunk to the front glove compartment..and i willl be able to :
    attach a usb dvd burner..
    proivde power to charge my ipods
    or theoretically provide the max power to any device that would normally suffer from extended usb lengths?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2k1Toaster View Post
    and a rabid chimpanzee could install it drunk (and have it work).

    As opposed to the badger on speed that did install it?

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