Hardware Review: Inelmatic XF700 Industrial Sunlight Readable Touch Screen Monitor

**RipplingHurst** · 07-08-2010, 10:49 PM

Originally Posted by dmiller

I don't see any reason to order a DVI in car.

If you want a multimonitor setup, you want your main screen to go digital, since most small boards don't have more than one analog output. It's easier and cheaper to split and down convert to S-video and composite (as required by most headrest monitors), than going straight from digital.

Also I would think it's safer to run digital wires around a noisy environment like the car? They can be thinner, more flexible and less expensive.

**sebberry** · 07-09-2010, 12:37 AM

Originally Posted by theonlykid

Sorry I forgot. Here is a pic of the back of the 669 control board mounted in the modified Bybyte frame
http://www.mo-co-so.com/v/~photos/669/669-dd-rear.jpg
I dont have any internal pics of the stand alone bonded 629. Since we use the lilliput control board it looks pretty much the same as the stock one would internally

Thanks.

I notice on the website that the option to have the transflective/bonded lilliput assembled into the double din frame is $75.

Is there any reason why I can't order the DDIN frame for $24 and move the components over myself?

**theonlykid** · 07-09-2010, 09:04 AM

Of course you can do it yourself, but you need to keep one thing in mind. If you do the conversion yourself you will void the warranty. If you buy it already converted in the frame it will be covered by our warranty.

**dmiller** · 07-09-2010, 12:51 PM

Originally Posted by RipplingHurst

If you want a multimonitor setup, you want your main screen to go digital, since most small boards don't have more than one analog output. .....

Some small boards have vga and DVI-I connections. The later carries digital and analog and only requires a DVI to VGA adapter.
As I said earlier, the "DVI" touchscreens I've looked at simply have a dvi to vga conversion box.

**theonlykid** · 07-09-2010, 01:03 PM

Then you must not have looked very far! The Lilliput 1045, 629DVI and 669GL are just 3 easy examples of touchscreens that have direct digital signals. Not sure what "small boards" you are refering to, but I will assume it is Mini ITX. If that is the case you are seriously misinformed about how the dual video works. You can not use a digital to analog converter (DVI to VGA) for the second video input. It will not work. If you dont get why some people want them it is because you dont have a use for it. For those that do they are a key part of the system.

**sebberry** · 07-10-2010, 01:06 PM

Originally Posted by theonlykid

Of course you can do it yourself, but you need to keep one thing in mind. If you do the conversion yourself you will void the warranty. If you buy it already converted in the frame it will be covered by our warranty.

I just placed an order for one in a double din frame. I didn't see, but I assume you include the button board with it that would normally come attached in the lilliput frame?

**theonlykid** · 07-10-2010, 07:59 PM

Yes it is included. The remote control will not work without the button board.

**thyroidablation** · 07-26-2010, 04:04 PM

OKAY! I read this entire thread. So is there any consensus on which screen has better sunlight read-ability? (especially at angles other than dead-on)

Is it the optically bonded XF700 with 600nit brightness for $750?
Or is it the Mo-Co-So modified Lilliput (various) with 450 nit brightness for $600+?
Or is it something else?

**dmiller** · 08-02-2010, 01:51 PM

I've now been using the XF700's big brother, the XF1000, for a day. It's an extremely nice monitor. Everything about it is nicer than my Xenarc, as it should be for 3x the price.

The overall build quality of the enelmatic is without question better than the modded Lilliput. I don't see how the IQ of the Lilliput is better than the Enelmatic. But I don't feel buying the modded Lilliput is a mistake either. Repair of the modded Lilliput is likely faster than enelmatic.